2000 GTI vr6 w/ 62k miles
Just put on ATE powerstop slotted front rotors and mintex redbox pads. Flushed out the brake fluid in the system, as it was going on 60k miles. Replaced it with Valvoline Syn Dot3/Dot4 fluid, which claims to satisfy and exceed both requirements.
Anyhow, bled the brakes out like 5 times now at all 4 wheels (only replaced front brakes) and the pedal is still very mushy, and the bleeding doesn't seem to change it at all.
I'll start with the rear driver's wheel and generally will get a bubble or two from it. Rear passenger usually about the same, and the front two will come up with a misty looking bunch of small bubbles, but all 4 wheels will always bleed clear after a cycle or two.
Not leaking fluid anywhere.
I'll go for a test drive, find the pedal going to the floor, start again at the rear wheel and find more bubbles. Bled the system out twice last nite and 3 times today, and I'm at a loss as to what's up.
When I replaced the fluid, I uncorked one of the bleed valves and started pumping the brakes, all the while making sure to keep the reservoir full. Did this for each wheel starting with the front driver's. Didn't figure I'd need to bleed it after that, being as I really didn't introduce any air into the system and if I had it would've just shot right back out with the next pump.
Have tried bleeding the brakes with the car on, and with the car off. Tried criss-crossing wheels, pumping it up 20-30 times before uncorking the bleed valve, called the dealer, who told me I shouldn't have to do any special, and guys, I'm just lost.
The brakes were feeling just fine before I flushed them, the fluid was looking dark and gunky and I had begun to notice the braking wasn't quite as good as it used to be, in keeping with having very old fluid.
I can't lock the ABS any more, and the pedal goes to the floor, but the car does stop. All I can figure is my MC somehow bit it. Also, when I hit the brake pedal I hear a noise sort of like air sucking briefly. And, on top of that, when pumping the pedal with the car on, I was lying under the exhaust bleeding the rear driver's wheel while my friend was pumping and I could hear a very definate shift in engine RPM as she was pumping. Is that normal too?
So, my question to you guys, what is it I'm doing wrong here (apart from lying under the exhaust with the car running ?
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Just put on ATE powerstop slotted front rotors and mintex redbox pads. Flushed out the brake fluid in the system, as it was going on 60k miles. Replaced it with Valvoline Syn Dot3/Dot4 fluid, which claims to satisfy and exceed both requirements.
Anyhow, bled the brakes out like 5 times now at all 4 wheels (only replaced front brakes) and the pedal is still very mushy, and the bleeding doesn't seem to change it at all.
I'll start with the rear driver's wheel and generally will get a bubble or two from it. Rear passenger usually about the same, and the front two will come up with a misty looking bunch of small bubbles, but all 4 wheels will always bleed clear after a cycle or two.
Not leaking fluid anywhere.
I'll go for a test drive, find the pedal going to the floor, start again at the rear wheel and find more bubbles. Bled the system out twice last nite and 3 times today, and I'm at a loss as to what's up.
When I replaced the fluid, I uncorked one of the bleed valves and started pumping the brakes, all the while making sure to keep the reservoir full. Did this for each wheel starting with the front driver's. Didn't figure I'd need to bleed it after that, being as I really didn't introduce any air into the system and if I had it would've just shot right back out with the next pump.
Have tried bleeding the brakes with the car on, and with the car off. Tried criss-crossing wheels, pumping it up 20-30 times before uncorking the bleed valve, called the dealer, who told me I shouldn't have to do any special, and guys, I'm just lost.
The brakes were feeling just fine before I flushed them, the fluid was looking dark and gunky and I had begun to notice the braking wasn't quite as good as it used to be, in keeping with having very old fluid.
I can't lock the ABS any more, and the pedal goes to the floor, but the car does stop. All I can figure is my MC somehow bit it. Also, when I hit the brake pedal I hear a noise sort of like air sucking briefly. And, on top of that, when pumping the pedal with the car on, I was lying under the exhaust bleeding the rear driver's wheel while my friend was pumping and I could hear a very definate shift in engine RPM as she was pumping. Is that normal too?
So, my question to you guys, what is it I'm doing wrong here (apart from lying under the exhaust with the car running ?
