Re: gun safes (Ghost of VW TANK)
No experience with either of them, but based on the specs, I think I would go for the Patriot over the Browning.
Looking at the Browning, it looks to be much like the Winchester brand safe from Sams Club that I have, 12ga body, roughly the same ratings and weight and so on.... but the Browning is $1100+ and the Winchester is under $700
http://www.samsclub.com/shoppi...89761
I have one of the Sams Club Winchester units, sans the Winchester Horse Rider decal (I left the Winchester name decal, but the horse I removed), and I like it well enough.
I've piled a good bit of weight on the shelves and they're OK, it opens and closes smoothly, sounds good when it shuts, and for the price is OK.
Everything discussed thus far in this thread aren't safes though, they're "Residential Security Containers" and are rated as such.
For a real safe, a company like Graffunder can help. Not cheap, not light, but a real safe. I'll eventually get one, but for now what I have will do.
http://graffundersafes.com/
RSCs stop kids, crackheads, and snatch and grab house burglars. They sure won't stop anyone who really wants into your safe. There are videos online showing the ease at which you can get into one with a fire axe, it punches right through the side of them and is compromised that way.
Anything is better than nothing, and if it slows them down, that often makes the difference in them moving on or not, so even a RSC is good http://****************.com/smile/emthup.gif
Modified by Broke at 8:28 AM 9-23-2008