Hill Hold?

If you search on here there are other discussions about it. As far as I know it cannot be disabled. Best suggestion I have, when you let go of the brake count to 3... hill hold releases in about 3 seconds.

It's annoying. But might take about 3 weeks. That's how long it took for me to get comfortable with it. I stalled a shocking amount at first (I've owned MT cars exclusively for over 15 years). I still don't like it, but you'll get a sense for when it lets go after a while.

ThisIsChris said:

It's annoying. But might take about 3 weeks. That's how long it took for me to get comfortable with it. I stalled a shocking amount at first (I've owned MT cars exclusively for over 15 years). I still don't like it, but you'll get a sense for when it lets go after a while.

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I have only owned manual transmissions since 1987 or so, and I find this difficult. The only car I found more difficult to drive with a manual transmission was, I think, a Volvo V 40 rental car. Releasing the clutch pedal even a miniscule amount caused the clutch to lock up fully, RIGHT NOW.

Danny

Hill hold on this car is about 1.5-2 seconds too long lol

No coding to remove it like on MK7?

I've also been annoyed by this and after several thousand miles with the car, have learned to re-train my feet. My habit from driving other manual cars has always been to bring up the clutch near bite point while my right foot moves from brake to gas. In this car, the hill hold works smoothly when you leave the clutch all the way down, transition from brake to gas, then let the clutch up.

Don't know why it has to be so sticky and unforgiving, but it is what it is. This is the best solution I've found for now.

Nutty 5.0 said:

No coding to remove it like on MK7?

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We've been hoping and praying but no solutions but patience, yet.

I despise it.

I know how to use a manual transmission and clutch, VW. And if I didn’t and still bought a car so equipped, I’d learn.

Yeah I’ve been asked to look into this for a while now and unfortunately the only thing I can do currently is do auto hold. Unfortunately, I don’t have anything to compare with that doesn’t have hill hold so everything is in binary and it’s not that easy to decode binary to text.

achrisekos said:

Yeah I’ve been asked to look into this for a while now and unfortunately the only thing I can do currently is do auto hold. Unfortunately, I don’t have anything to compare with that doesn’t have hill hold so everything is in binary and it’s not that easy to decode binary to text.

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Maybe these threads can shed some light and help you decode it? I diasbled hill hold assist!!

Is this hill hold the same as on mk7? If yes, i don't understand why it is the problem. On mk7, it lets go after a few seconds or if you release clutch and press gas pedal, basically of you start driving.

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It's frustrating since from a cold start on a hill, the e-brake will act just like I wish the hill hold would. Holds the car until sufficient torque is applied and it releases. So something in the car is able to work the way I wish it would.

I don't have an issue with it anymore. The first car I owned equipped with it, a 2011 WRX I had to adjust and learn to work with it. I have now owned 6 cars with this feature, the VW implementation is consistent with the Subaru, Honda, and Ford setups. This has essentially been a standard feature for manual transmission vehicles for the last 10 years

Tarik said:

Is this hill hold the same as on mk7? If yes, i don't understand why it is the problem. On mk7, it lets go after a few seconds or if you release clutch and press gas pedal, basically of you start driving.

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No, it's different. It clamps the car in place regardless of letting out the clutch. It's just a fixed amount of time that seems to scale with the steepness of the incline, up to about 2-3 seconds.

I got used to it after a few weeks of driving the car, but it’s definitely another mark against VW as a change in the wrong direction with the MK8. I find I just barely release the clutch to when it’s just about to start engaging and wait for the brake to release and then as I feel the car just barely roll back I take off as normal. Occasionally it gets me by not releasing quite as quickly, but that just blunts the takeoff a little, nothing close to stalling. We really shouldn’t have to adapt to the car working poorly, especially since the prior gen system worked much more seamlessly. I’m sure they save 5 cents per car somehow, and that’s what seems to drive their decision making. The MK8, my 8th VW and all it’s poorly implemented improvements, especially the many things like this with poor and minimally tested software programming has me set that my next car will definitely not be a VW.

I like it. Not sure why all the hate but maybe I’m the odd ball. Been driving manuals since dinosaurs roamed the earth. It’s nice to know I’m not gonna roll back on that person behind me that just had to get an inch away from my bumper.

I think that the Hill Assist on my 2023 works less well than the VW rentals I have had in the past, with the exception of the Polo I had about a year ago, but then, I am pretty sure that I could switch all of them off. The Polo locked up HARD on a mountain once. I had a real problem. I thought I was going to have to call the rental company for another and pickup of the Polo. The least that VW could do was to give us an option to choose for ourself, rather than locking people in to one choice, causing problems for some.

Danny

Windemere said:

No, it's different. It clamps the car in place regardless of letting out the clutch. It's just a fixed amount of time that seems to scale with the steepness of the incline, up to about 2-3 seconds.

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I don’t live in a very hilly area but mine really seems like it let’s go when the clutch engages. Maybe a slight delay but I have never stalled it with hill assist.
Definitely feels like it let’s go with a little gas and clutch engaged. I don’t feel like I have to wait for it.

do you have a source for it being a set time? I’m curious since I haven’t really felt it act like that