Holy %#*^!! Ford will add Tesla plug to its electric vehicles starting in 2025

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Mazda 3s

Discussion Starter · 15 d ago

Well, I didn’t see that coming…

Starting early next year, Ford EV customers will have access to more than 12,000 Tesla Superchargers across the U.S. and Canada, in addition to the over 10,000 DC fast-chargers that are already part of the BlueOval Charge Network. This will give Ford EV customers unprecedented access to fast-charging.

In 2025, Ford will offer next-generation electric vehicles with the North American Charging Standard (NACS) connector built-in, eliminating the need for an adapter to access Tesla Superchargers.

“This is great news for our customers who will have unprecedented access to the largest network of fast-chargers in the U.S. and Canada with 12,000+ Tesla Superchargers plus 10,000+ fast-chargers already in the BlueOval Charge Network. Widespread access to fast-charging is absolutely vital to our growth as an EV brand, and this breakthrough agreement comes as we are ramping up production of our popular Mustang Mach-E and F-150 Lightning, and preparing to launch a series of next-generation EVs starting in 2025.”

https://media.ford.com/content/fordmedia/fna/us/en/news/2023/05/25/ford-ev-customers-to-gain-access-to-12-000-tesla-superchargers--.html

Ford will add Tesla plug to its electric vehicles in surprising move

Tesla and Ford announced a partnership to onboard the latter’s electric vehicles on the former’s Supercharger network. Ford will add...

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Insane. I just read it as well!

Looks like full access to the entire network. Not just ones that have been converted to non-Tesla charging.

I assume this will incorporate the same plug and charge capability a native Tesla would have as well. Wow.

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delipe7774

· #3 · 15 d ago

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bzcat

· #4 · 15 d ago

I wasn't expecting an OEM to score an own goal but never count Ford out is what I learned. 🤣

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Mazda 3s

Discussion Starter · #5 · 15 d ago

Toaster29 said:
Insane. I just read it as well!

I assume this will incorporate the same plug and charge capability a native Tesla would have as well. That would really be something!

Yup, same plug and everything. Looks like the first step is to include a CCS to Tesla adapter with all current EVs going forward. Then all-new models coming in 2025 will have a native Tesla port, negating the need for an adapter.

This is yuuuuge

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Toaster29

· #6 · 15 d ago

Mazda 3s said:
Yup, same plug and everything. Looks like the first step is to include a CCS to Tesla adapter with all current EVs going forward. Then all-new models coming in 2025 will have a native Tesla port, negating the need for an adapter.

This is yuuuuge

Indeed it is. Tesla can produce SCs faster, cheaper, and more reliably than anybody else. One more major OEM and CCS is in trouble IMO.

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Mazda 3s

Discussion Starter · #7 · 15 d ago

Toaster29 said:
Indeed it is. Tesla can produce SCs faster, cheaper, and more reliably than anybody else. One more major OEM and CCS is in trouble IMO.

On a side note, I thought that this news would send TSLA higher after hours, but it’s barely budged. 🤷🏽‍♂️

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Toaster29

· #8 · 15 d ago

Mazda 3s said:
On a side note, I thought that this news would send TSLA higher after hours, but it’s barely budged. 🤷🏽‍♂️

I also just checked. Most don’t realize that SC sales will probably end up making them a good chunk of their money in the next decade.

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Techun

· #9 · 15 d ago

Isn't this a step backwards? I thought every other car company was on board with the same charger?

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Arctic92x

· #10 · 15 d ago

With how easy Superchargers are, Fords on my radar for future EVs.

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MandatoryOutsidePossum

· #11 · 15 d ago

Techun said:
Isn't this a step backwards? I thought every other car company was on board with the same charger?

Also wondering why I would want to use Tesla's absurdly expensive network, and why this isn't a step backwards. Perhaps someone will explain.

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Venom21

· #12 · 15 d ago

Well, this will turn everything into chaos. Can't imagine other Automakers will sit on this. EA just crapped it pants.

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ghost03

· #13 · 15 d ago

Doesn't say if they're keeping the regular connector too. I assume they are.

I think it's kind of like when iPods could charge off firewire or usb. The universal standard won, but the rollout was faster because more people bought ipods because they had the option.

That said, it does seem like a stupid risk to take.

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Mazda 3s

Discussion Starter · #14 · 15 d ago

MandatoryOutsidePossum said:
Also wondering why I would want to use Tesla's absurdly expensive network, and why this isn't a step backwards. Perhaps someone will explain.

Because Tesla has the most reliable charging network in the U.S. with the highest satisfaction in actual desirable locations (proximity to retail, restaurants).

You always know what chargers are available, they almost always works, and all of the available chargers charge at the same rate. No pulling into a station to find that only one or two are 350kw and all the rest are 150kw or lower.

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Venom21

· #15 · 15 d ago

How will they implement the change in 2025, will their cars have two ports? Or will it just have NACS and they will sell an adapter to charge at CCS stations?

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MandatoryOutsidePossum

· #16 · 15 d ago

Mazda 3s said:
Because Tesla has the most reliable charging network in the U.S. with the highest satisfaction in actual desirable locations (proximity to retail, restaurants).

You always know what chargers are available, they almost always works, and all of the available chargers charge at the same rate. No pulling into a station to find that only one or two are 350kw and all the rest are 150kw or lower.

Right, but you pay a price premium for that.

Are future Fords getting locked into an overpriced charging network?

If not, carry on.

If so, why would you want that?

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Car Problems

· #17 · 15 d ago

Whats the net step going to be, model collaborations?

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Tommietank

· #18 · 15 d ago

MandatoryOutsidePossum said:
Also wondering why I would want to use Tesla's absurdly expensive network, and why this isn't a step backwards. Perhaps someone will explain.

Is it more expensive than lets say Electrify America? Around here they are cheaper. $0.40 vs $0.48. Note that supercharging should not be seen as the equivalent as getting fuel. Charge at home for cheaper

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Mazda 3s

Discussion Starter · #19 · 15 d ago

MandatoryOutsidePossum said:
Right, but you pay a price premium for that.

Are future Fords getting locked into an overpriced charging network?

If not, carry on.

If so, why would you want that?

Even if they are locked in, I doubt people are going to bitch about the price difference for better reliability and accessibility. Most EV drivers charge at home anyway versus at a public charger.

I know I don’t represent everyone, but for the past year, only 15% of my charging was done at a Supercharger. The rest was at home or at my in-laws’ beach house.