Hypothetically speaking, let's say there was this 16v GTI sitting in the woods......

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Crispyfritter

Discussion Starter · Feb 11, 2002

for about 2 years. Let's also assume this totally fictitious vehicle ran when it was parked, but had a problem with the distributor (dizzy?) shorting.
The non-existant vehicle also has it's passenger side floorboard full of water, and the interior is smelly, but it pretty good shape. It also has the leather seats with the cloth inserts. The pretend vehicle's body is in great shape as are the wheels and tires.
Now, this is also hypothetically speaking as well, but let's say I was to acquire this vehicle. What would it take ot get it running? Would I be better off parting it out or making it run and sell it?
Thank you,
Chris

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Tornado Wolfie

· #2 · Feb 11, 2002

Re: Hypothetically speaking, let's say there was this 16v GTI sitting in the woods...... (200HP4dr)

Your hypothetical tires would be hypothetically shot

Dunno what it'd be worth..

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Crispyfritter

Discussion Starter · #3 · Feb 11, 2002

Re: Hypothetically speaking, (Tornado Wolfie)

Wheels and tires were stored and in great shape. I'm getting the car for really cheap, if it matters.
Chris

vdubturbo

· #4 · Feb 11, 2002

Re: Hypothetically speaking, (200HP4dr)

Who takes the time to store the wheels and tyres, but leaves the rest of the car in some trees to fill up with water!?
Check for rot!

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Tornado2dr

· #5 · Feb 11, 2002

Re: Hypothetically speaking, (200HP4dr)

Nothing is cheaper than five gallons of gas, new plugs, and a can of starter fluid....oh yeah,...don't forget JUMP BOX!!!
Might as well see if it starts.
btw...to reduce injury to the motor after sitting for such a long time, unplug the coil wire and crank it like that for two minutes or so to build oil pressure.

vdubturbo

· #6 · Feb 11, 2002

Re: Hypothetically speaking, (Tornado2dr)

quote:[HR][/HR]btw...to reduce injury to the motor after sitting for such a long time, unplug the coil wire and crank it like that for two minutes or so to build oil pressure.[HR][/HR]

...or, take an electric drill with some kind of socket on the end, take off the cap where the block is machined for the 8v dist, and turn it there. This way you do even less damage by spinning the pump without moving ther engine. (Obviously, you have to pull off the pump drive gear, otherwise you spin the intermediate shaft)
GOOD LUCK!

Crispyfritter

Discussion Starter · #7 · Feb 11, 2002

Re: Hypothetically speaking, (vdubturbo)

He had some decent wheels and tires on it. I'm sure the floor pans are rusty, but they seem to hold water okay.

I will try your suggestions.
How does one drain the gas tank of all the old nasty, hypothetical fuel?
Chris

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Tornado2dr

· #8 · Feb 11, 2002

Re: Hypothetically speaking, (200HP4dr)

I wouldn't worry too much about the old gas, unless it has a full tank or something. I would suggest a bottle of fuel stabilizer/octane booster treatment, and a few gallons of fresh 93. Remember that you shouldn't expect to drive the thing out, you just wanna see if it runs. Buy a can of starting fluid (maybe two, they are cheap), undo the airbox so you can spray into intake(a quick burst is all you will need), and crank it over!

vdubturbo

· #9 · Feb 11, 2002

Re: Hypothetically speaking, (Tornado2dr)

quote:[HR][/HR]How does one drain the gas tank of all the old nasty, hypothetical fuel?[HR][/HR]

OH GOD.... I HAVE to tell this story.
When i was in college, this dude I knew came into practice one day bitching out his aunt. I asked what the deal was, and he told me that she borrowed his Prelude and filled it with Diesel at the gas station, apparently by accident. (now how you do that is beyond me b/c the diesel spout thing is considerably larger than the hole for the gas). Anyway, so if that weren't bad enough, my idiot aquaintance (I wouldn't go so far as to call him a friend) now has a tank full of diesel that has clogged his filter/pump/injectors. Then he starts complaining that he now needs a new gas tank? I'm like why, just drain it! So what does he tell me next?!? He punched a hole in his gas tank to get the diesel out with one of those green metal rods from a stop sign!!! I felt bad for him until he told me that! Some people!

Sorry for the OT, but every time someone mentions draining their gas tank, I think of that!

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PAGTI91

· #10 · Feb 11, 2002

Re: Hypothetically speaking, (200HP4dr)

since the fuel tanks are plastic its nothing to worry about in regards to rust and crap in the fuel...but if you really want it out, take off the fuel pump/lines and let everything pour out...all over the hypothetical woods

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SidVicious

· #11 · Feb 11, 2002

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Re: Hypothetically speaking, (PAGTI91)

quote:[HR][/HR]since the fuel tanks are plastic its nothing to worry about in regards to rust and crap in the fuel...but if you really want it out, take off the fuel pump/lines and let everything pour out...all over the hypothetical woods

[HR][/HR]

No smoking

And if the dizzy is shorting out, you'll need either a new Hall sender($$$) or grab a dizzy out of the junkyard. Just grab the whole thing, it's easier than doing a Hall swap.
Hypothetically speaking, of course

[Modified by SidRocco, 7:51 AM 2-11-2002]

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Crispyfritter

Discussion Starter · #12 · Feb 11, 2002

Re: Hypothetically speaking, (SidRocco)

I would hate for the desctruction of one of the most beautiful parts of the country to be on my hands. "Beautiful Brown County Indiana destroyed by forest fire."

Chris

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Caleb

· #13 · Feb 11, 2002

Re: Hypothetically speaking, (200HP4dr)

I take it this is the car you were going to look at on Saturday? And you are hypothetically thinking about swapping the engine and tranny into your Jetta? Hypothetically of course

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negativl

· #14 · Feb 11, 2002

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Re: Hypothetically speaking, (Caleb)

Hypothetically, I'd agree, start by trying to see if you can make the car run. Do the oil pump trick, but first pull the dipstick and make sure you have oil and not chocolate milk. If water got in there, I'd spend the 8 bucks on some diesel grade 15W-40 oil (has extra detergents), drain the pan already (bring a pan to save the environment), close it up and pour fresh oil in the normal way. THEN pull the oil pump cover and spin the sucker that way.
Pop the air filter box open, and use a rag to sweep out the spider webs that are prolly in there.

Maybe throw a new (just get a cheap purolator or something) air filter in too... Wrap the intake boots in duct tape since they're probably hard and cracked

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If I were feeling ambitious I might pull the transfer pump and shine a flashlight in there, but I wouldn't be expecting to drive it out, so probably not.
Yeah, spray some starter fluid, hook up the jumper cables (or bring a spare battery and just stick it in there) and see what happens. Even if it fires right up, realize the brakes are prolly frozen, so DON'T try to drive it out of there.
Hypothetically.

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Crispyfritter

Discussion Starter · #15 · Feb 11, 2002

Re: Hypothetically speaking, (vdubturbo)

quote:[HR][/HR]btw...to reduce injury to the motor after sitting for such a long time, unplug the coil wire and crank it like that for two minutes or so to build oil pressure.
...or, take an electric drill with some kind of socket on the end, take off the cap where the block is machined for the 8v dist, and turn it there. This way you do even less damage by spinning the pump without moving ther engine. (Obviously, you have to pull off the pump drive gear, otherwise you spin the intermediate shaft)
GOOD LUCK! [HR][/HR]

So, when I pop the hood, what am I looking for here? I have an 8v in my Jetta, are they similar? Just point me there and I'll figure it out from there. Please keep in mind that this is purely hypothetical.

OT: I think we may have set some kind of a record for the thread with the highest number of "hypothetical"'s in it.
Chris

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negativl

· #16 · Feb 11, 2002

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Re: Hypothetically speaking, (200HP4dr)

quote:[HR][/HR]----------------------
...or, take an electric drill with some kind of socket on the end, take off the cap where the block is machined for the 8v dist, and turn it there. This way you do
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So, when I pop the hood, what am I looking for here? I have an 8v in my Jetta, are they similar? Just point me there and I'll figure it out from there. Please keep in mind that this is purely hypothetical.

OT: I think we may have set some kind of a record for the thread with the highest number of "hypothetical"'s in it.
Chris[HR][/HR]

They're sort of similar. You know where the dizzy is in your 8v? Well, there's just a plug there on the 16v. remove the plug, and the oil pump stuff is there, just like in your 8v.

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Jerelin7686

· #17 · Feb 11, 2002

Re: Hypothetically speaking, (negativl)

hypothetically did you buy this from someone or is it just behind someones house in the woods and you want to make it "hypothetically" yours???

Crispyfritter

Discussion Starter · #18 · Feb 11, 2002

Re: Hypothetically speaking, (negativl)

And dizzy is synonomous with distributor, right? It's hard keeping up with you 'dubbers and your terminology.
Chris

negativl

· #19 · Feb 11, 2002

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Re: Hypothetically speaking, (200HP4dr)

Yikes, you guys are rubbing off on me! I never used to say dizzy!

Yeah, distributor, sorry.

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allan r

· #20 · Feb 11, 2002

Re: Hypothetically speaking, (negativl)

quote:[HR][/HR]drain the pan already (bring a pan to save the environment), close it up and pour fresh oil in the normal way. THEN pull the oil pump cover and spin the sucker that way.
[HR][/HR]

i thought i heard once that used motor oil makes good fertilizer... any truth to that?

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