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I just don't get it. Why did the Mustang outsell and out live the camaro?

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Why? The Z28 looked better, drove better, was faster.... why?
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Re: I just don't get it. Why did the Mustang outsell and out live the camaro? (Silly_me)

bacause you 'murrican love big-ass boats that look like crap
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Re: I just don't get it. Why did the Mustang outsell and out live the camaro? (Silly_me)

Marketing?
Re: I just don't get it. Why did the Mustang outsell and out live the camaro? (Dutchman)

The Z28 was a boat as well
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Re: I just don't get it. Why did the Mustang outsell and out live the camaro? (Silly_me)

quote:[HR][/HR]Why? The Z28 looked better, drove better, was faster.... why?
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The Mustang outsold the F-cars for several reasons. First, Ford did a better job marketing the Mustang than GM did. Second, Ford would update the Mustang every two years with something new. GM waited twice as long to update the F-Cars. Third, the Mustang was not a hatchback. Hatchbacks, until recently, were out of favor. Finally, the Mustang was simply a more comfortable car to drive. While this does not matter to the speed freaks, most Mustangs and F-Cars sold are the V6 models.
This is why I don't see the new Altima as such a big threat to the Camry and Accord. For most people, speed has never been the primary reason to buy a car. Style, sophistication, price and other factors contribute more to the car buying decision. Just take a look at our Dubs. They are not the fastest cars in their respective classes, but we still decided to choose them over faster models.
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Re: I just don't get it. Why did the Mustang outsell and out live the camaro? (Silly_me)

I personally thought the Rustank looked better than the Craparo...
On top of that I think the Mustang was a much easier car to wield in tight traffic situations due to its smaller size.
Re: I just don't get it. Why did the Mustang outsell and out live the camaro? (Silly_me)

because the Mustang is not a hardcore sports car!
Z28 and even the base 6 cyl is a sports car geared mainly for men.
Mustangs are more sporty and less hardcore. It appeals to a larger market. Look at all the women who buy mustangs, esp the 6 cyl model. And that's where alot of the differences in sales are (just like GTi vs Golf sales).
Re: I just don't get it. Why did the Mustang outsell and out live the camaro? (crash813)

For whatever it's worth, the Mustang still has that legendary name. The lore of the Mustang has become an icon in American culture, making celebrities of its designers and being a fixture in lots of people's memories.
The Camaro, while full of racing heritage all its own, just doesn't have that attachment in the American psyche.
And, yeah, the fact that GM barely marketed the car didn't help much either....
Tom
Re: I just don't get it. Why did the Mustang outsell and out live the camaro? (mutcth)

how many camaro commercials did ya see? i hardly ever saw them. They did advertise the trans am, and the commercial was kind of cool, the one at the stoplight....
The cars AREN'T CRAP. The new SS camaro, does EVERYTHING well, including brake. The new SS's stop shorter then MOST sports cars, even some of the high end cars. Not to mention, for under 30K, you could have a car in the low 13's stock. I witnessed, an ABSOLUTE BONE STOCK, 2001 T/A, AUTO, run a 12.87. Thats incredible. 12's! STOCK! AUTO!
I still have my camaro, and love it. I don't think i'd sell it. Maybe if it were stock, but definately not now.
The camaro is a big car. It's not like driving, well, anything else for the most part. I loved my car all the time, it brought me great times. They even get good mileage if you leave them stock (something that is next to IMPOSSIBLE to do), hell, the LS1 gets over 30 mpg on the highway, something even a good V6 has trouble doing *ahem, VR6*.
People knocked the camaro/firebird, because they were euro/handling snobs, like we see all over this very post. If they actually took the time to drive the car, i don't see how they wouldn't like the good aspects of the cars. Yes, the rattle, squeak, and have some problems. Wouldn't that describe VW too?
Hell, my 2000 gti glx, built in germany by hans and frans, had almost as many rattles at 13K miles, then my 53K 95 camaro has. And the vw didn't have NEARLY the power to deal with as the camaro did.
i dunno why the mustang outsold the camaro, i always liked both cars, but when it came time to buying one, brand new, i simply couldn't find a reason why i'd rather have the stang. I wanted performance, and the camaro had it beat in every category. I ran a 13.8 stock, put a few things on it, and had it in the low 13's... It was a great car!
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Re: I just don't get it. Why did the Mustang outsell and out live the camaro? (Silly_me)

Better marketing and better styling! Camaro is a big ass boat,that looked like it was designed for the eighties.
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Re: I just don't get it. Why did the Mustang outsell and out live the camaro? (Silly_me)

quote:[HR][/HR]The Z28 was a boat as well
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yep but more like a Scarab (baywatch baby
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the mustang i more like a Titanic or a Koersk
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Re: I just don't get it. Why did the Mustang outsell and out live the camaro? (GTI JIM)

GTIJim I've always liked the power of the camaros. They would be, IMO, the best track car that can be had for under 30K. As far as handling, the only one I've ever driven was so damn wide that it was very hard to upset it in the twisties. Stuck like flypaper.
jgonzo911 I have never liked the Mustang's look nor their shoulder height roof line. At least the camaro looks sleek and low and wide. But, agian, that's just my opinion.
Re: I just don't get it. Why did the Mustang outsell and out live the camaro? (Silly_me)

I love the looks of the Mustang! More variants. Those of you who diss it do us all a favor and go beat one. Your local SCCA has a website post me a link with your name showing me the FTD! faster then any other Mustang that day?
As for you Dutchman!!!! you euros like little sh!t boxes, that are underpowered and overtaxed! you have no idea what real power is! Oh wait you have the Skoda and the Fiat uno! http://****************.com/smile/emthdown.gif
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Re: I just don't get it. Why did the Mustang outsell and out live the camaro? (Silly_me)

Fleet sales...plain and simple.
The Mustang has been quite a popular rental car over the years.
Re: I just don't get it. Why did the Mustang outsell and out live the camaro? (ClownCar)

The Mustang is also cheaper.
Re: I just don't get it. Why did the Mustang outsell and out live the camaro? (Silly_me)

I find Cameros to be the most disgusting cars of all time. ugly, unrefined, gas guzzling POS. The Camero is my least favorite car, EVER.
Re: I just don't get it. Why did the Mustang outsell and out live the camaro? (Fettes Brot)

quote:[HR][/HR]I find Cameros to be the most disgusting cars of all time. ugly, unrefined, gas guzzling POS. The Camero is my least favorite car, EVER.[HR][/HR]​
Maybe it is your least favorite car ever because you don't know anything about it.

1) There is no "e" in Camaro.
2) A Camaro Z28 gets close to 30 mpg on the highway. I would hardly call that gas guzzling, especially when you consider it has 300+ hp and boatloads of torque.
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Re: I just don't get it. Why did the Mustang outsell and out live the camaro? (Silly_me)

There's a lotta reasons I'm sure people can come up with, and most of them will be right. GM really dropped the ball on the Camaro, I mean it's like they gave up even trying to sell the car years ago. Think about it, the Camaro of 2002 is the exact same car as is was in 1993, how many other models can you think of that are growing into their 9th year?
Other reasons would be that they haven't marketed the car in ages, and it's more of a sports car then a 'cruiser'. Also the styling resembles nothing of the original Camaro's while the latest mustangs have gone back styling wise to take cues from their predecessors. How many mustang owners today were just kids when they first fell in love with the car? They go to the car dealerships, see a modernized version of a car they rememeber being in love with, and they're sold on the spot.
*shrug*
Re: I just don't get it. Why did the Mustang outsell and out live the camaro? (D. Olsen)

One word - women.
Ford never really marketed the Mustang as a macho car, which is what i think the women dont like about the Camaro.
Re: I just don't get it. Why did the Mustang outsell and out live the camaro? (CanuckPal)

First off, I love mine
There isn't a single new car on the market I'd buy over a Camaro (unless I had a ton to spend, then I'd get a ZO6).
The major points have already been stated. For one, the Mustang has a feeling of nostalgia to a lot of people. To them its a true American sports car. It makes them think of very fast race cars and such. Of course, the original Mustang wasn't a sports car, it was a sporty car. It had sporting pretensions. It was a few years later when it finally got the power (and suspension) to back up the image. Since say, 1994, the Mustang has been a sporty car for the most part, it was the diluted for the masses pony car. Fbodies were the pony car. They were loud, long, mean, swooped back, harsh riding, you sat low in it, etc. If you like it, great, and if not, tuff bosoms.
It would be interesting to see which sold the most, V8 Fbodies or V8 Mustangs. I think the sales of those would be much closer. Its just there are a TON of V6 Stangs sold to 16 year old cheerleaders who want a "sports car." And Fbodies dont have any luggage space either, and no real trunk. I really hope the next generation Camaro is more like the first or 2nd gen which had a trunk, and not like the 3rd and 4th gens.
Motor Trend said it best. This is a full fledged, eat-the-pavement, Hai Karate, Joe Mannix, NHRA Top Eliminator,
smokey burnout, powersliding, speed-shifting, Jimi Hendrix blaring, alley-prowling, bad a$$...Going fast in every possible direction is this
car's only reason for being and its sole claim to fame

J.
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