My stock GTI 1.8t was excellent in the snow on the 15" wheels. I'm chipped now, and the tires on my 15's are shot, so I'm going to get snow tires mounted on them.
I think you might want to look into some 15" or 16" steelies and snow tires if you have 17's though....
I got this one,,
In the snow the ASR really sucks! Its not bad on the highway or something, but if your cruzing aroung the city on backroads or umplowed allys you have to be rollin with the ASR off, and go for maximum wheel spin. We just got lots of snow in MN and I hete driving in it, I just got My 1.8T jetta and the dealer use the ASR as a selling feature for the snow,, but no no it isn't.
quote:[HR][/HR]I got this one,,
In the snow the ASR really sucks! Its not bad on the highway or something, but if your cruzing aroung the city on backroads or umplowed allys you have to be rollin with the ASR off, and go for maximum wheel spin. We just got lots of snow in MN and I hete driving in it, I just got My 1.8T jetta and the dealer use the ASR as a selling feature for the snow,, but no no it isn't. [HR][/HR]
I dunno....I think ASR works pretty well. You can floor it in the snow in 2nd gear, and you keep going straight. I have heard that if you're going really slowly in really bad snow it can give you problems, but I've never run into that. At least you can turn it off if you run into that situation.
grab some steelies and snows. It will be worth the investment (500 bucks) trust me. As to how it handles, i think My A2 was much easier to keep under "controlled chaos" i.e. having fun without worrying about having an accident. and yes asr does suck.
Drove mine for three days in the snow this week. Picked up the new winter car last night, so I'm done driving it for now. The car wasn't bad of course I spent most of my drive stuck in traffic, not going fast. I also have stock tires with only 13K on them. The ASR was kicking on and off such much that I just shut it off. I will still have to drive my GTI this winter, since the winter car will not be making any big road trips and I will not be picking up any potential girlfriend candidates in it.
Actually, traction assist systems are mostly gimmicks, as you can typically motor yourself out of a possible hazardous situation by blipping throttle pressure or articulating the clutch.
I.E. My Buddy has a 2001 Toyota 4Runner LTD with Toyotas VSC and traction control it also has a rear diff lock feat but is only useful in "low-range" under 15 mph. When motoring in 2wd, most common for cities that receive much more than avg amounts snow, most of us know that soon as you switch an SUV into 4wd the gas mi drops significantly, 2wd will suffice in most situations, yet the 4Runner immediately reduces engine power at the least bit of slippage, imagine motoring over a sewage grate momentarily. If you stab the throttle there is almost no forward movement. Not to beat this dead horse, but to make matters worse 2001 4Runners don't have an override for this feature and is standard on all models I have been told 2002 models have the override feat. I would assume most motoring in less than desirable weather conditions such as progressive rainfall, snow, and ice are better dealt with traction assist off. I could see how it may perhaps benefit the 65% of 1.8T and VR6 owners who are less skilled at aggressive motoring let alone care to become more informed, the ASR inurn takes over and makes up for the lack of skill, hence the apparent widespread adoption of AWD and SUV's. Driver oriented companies continue on with traditional rear wheel drive config without the aid of expensive traction control devices.
The ASR is great. I don't know how these people who claim it sucks are driving, but I've been through two winters with it and I think it's fantastic for keeping the car on course when you're accelerating and traction isn't the best. On my way to work I have to climb a steep hill and in snow it was a real challenge in my old car. I'd always be working the gas pedal to apply power, back off when one side or the other lost traction, then back on again, etc. The ASR handles all that for you and now I just power up that hill, even in deep snow. No complaints at all about the ASR on my car.
quote:[HR][/HR]Here is another question this is the first car I've had that has traction control, how is the response in the snow?[HR][/HR]
Fantastic. I spent some time drving in winter conditions and playing with the ASR. It was great. Going uphill on a packed snow/ice road in 2nd gear and I could nail the gas without panic. The ASR light started blinking but the car tracked perfectly without any wheelspin.
Actually the only time I saw the ASR light was when I purposely induced wheelspin. Other than that the car handled snow perfectly without any complaint... as long as I drove carefully and "smartly".
I was impressed with the 17" MXMs in the snow. I drove from Banff (Canada) to Jasper last month (that's in the Rockies, eh) and the road wasn't bad except for about 5km that was packed snow/ice. I didn't slip once and at one point I misjudged a corner and thought I was toast. The car tracked perfectly at 80 km/h.
I wouldn't trust the MXMs to an emergency manoever and I don't think they're my choice for permanent winter driving but they get the job done in a pinch.
This is an older thread, you may not receive a response, and could
be reviving an old thread. Please consider creating a new thread.
VW Vortex - Volkswagen Forum
A forum community dedicated to all Volkswagen owners and enthusiasts. Come join the discussion about performance, builds, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, new releases, and more!