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This line of discussion, which I've seen throughout this thread, is so tired and ridiculous. People make their own decisions in life. People can also, if they put in the time, can be successful (however one wants to define it) in any field. And given the nature of college, many people either don't know or switch their majors as they progress. The flip side of the coin, is people making this tired argument that people shouldn't be english, fine arts, or sociology majors focusing strictly on earning potential. Maybe there's some merit there, but there's also the perspective of people who loathe STEM topics like I loathe history (as a major in college anyway). So you suggest people do something they dislike to "make the cost of college worth it"? I mean, how good of an engineer will you be if you would rather be reading/writing poetry? Could you even get through the math if you're not interested in it? This whole concept that liberal arts is silly, is itself silly. Certainly there's been some attention to medical schools accepting students with liberal arts degrees vs traditional science degrees. And from what I've seen, there are many avenues into law school.No offense to liberal arts, art history, etc.., but job market obviously doesn’t value those degrees that much. They are simply not worth money people pay.
And if I'm honest, sales can be a great way to make cash and doesn't typically require a specific major. The good sales people at my company are making $250k+/yr and don't have advanced degree (well, 2 of them have PhDs after doing my job for several years before transitioning into a sales-only role). So I mean, if after you get your fine arts degree your aren't doing fine arts work or getting paid enough, there are options out there. Again though, it goes back to core priorities. Lots of people don't care about making much money and success is only defined by being able to do what they like.
Your comment is literally the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Your options with a biology degree can be pretty substantial. A lot of it requires a more advanced degree however. If she's interested in a PhD in biology, her tuition would be paid for and she would get a small stipend. After her PhD, she could do a lot of things that pay well. Instead of a PhD, she could get a PharmD, which has many possible career options many of which pay nicely. If she has half a personality, she could take her bachelor's in biology and be a pharma sales rep and make money hand over fist. Her loans would be paid off fairy quickly.My cousin went to out of state school to study biology, not only are her options are pretty limited with undergrad in biology but on top of that she’s paying (financing) out-of-state tuition. Simply stupid decisions with long term consequences.
The reality is that college costs a lot of money these days. But to say that only certain degrees are worth getting because jobs pay a certain amount right after college is about the dumbest things I've ever heard. If people getting these loans are too stupid to know what they're going to owe after they graduate, that's on them. I took out loans in grad school---about $40k over a 7 year period (MA then PhD). Some of that was related to living expenses, some of it was for spending money, and some was for car mods. All that was paid off within 10 yrs of graduation. And my degrees were psych (BA), neuroscience/psych (MA), neurobiology (PhD). I made it work. I found a way to use my education, make good money, and not have to remain at the bench. I know other people in my PhD program who went on to law school (patent) and others who worked for various investment institutions. They're all doing great.