It makes a very noticable difference in the amount of light. I can't tell to much difference in my lows (55 watts) but on my highs (100 watts) damn there is a lot more light. Enough that I want to make sure my headlights are aimed correctly for just the right spread of light at night. I think I might look into some even higher wattage bulbs a little later. I was skeptical at first as was my friend who is a electrical guru but we were both impressed. If you haven't done this yet DO IT SOON it really helps.
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Re: Just installed relays on my dual rounds and WOW!!! (Caleb)
I did it about a week ago and there was a noticeable difference in light, but not nearly as much as you would have had, I only have 65/45 watt bulbs and the lamps themselves could use upgrading.
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I did it about a week ago and there was a noticeable difference in light, but not nearly as much as you would have had, I only have 65/45 watt bulbs and the lamps themselves could use upgrading.
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Re: Just installed relays on my dual rounds and WOW!!! (The_Jerbel)
Are you guys using H4 bulbs though?
'Cause I'm about to switch to single rounds with realys and H4's from dual rounds with 9004's and I don't want to lose too much light.......
Are you guys using H4 bulbs though?
'Cause I'm about to switch to single rounds with realys and H4's from dual rounds with 9004's and I don't want to lose too much light.......
Re: Just installed relays on my dual rounds and WOW!!! (VWsuperhero)
I am running H4 7" round outside lights and the inner highs are H3's. I think the H4's are 65/45 watts and the H3's are 100 watts. I am thinking about going to 130 watt H3's and higher wattage H4's if I can find them.
I am running H4 7" round outside lights and the inner highs are H3's. I think the H4's are 65/45 watts and the H3's are 100 watts. I am thinking about going to 130 watt H3's and higher wattage H4's if I can find them.
Re: Just installed relays on my dual rounds and WOW!!! (Caleb)
I need to put relays on mine I running H-4's with 90/100 watt bulbs in them and running 130watts in 5" H-3 and everytime I turn high beams on the fuse pops. Is that cause im not running a relays?
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I need to put relays on mine I running H-4's with 90/100 watt bulbs in them and running 130watts in 5" H-3 and everytime I turn high beams on the fuse pops. Is that cause im not running a relays?
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Re: Just installed relays on my dual rounds and WOW!!! (euro90gtx)
Wow, 90/100! That seems kinda powerful (what are 9004's anyway?)
Don't they get too hot for the lense?
Wow, 90/100! That seems kinda powerful (what are 9004's anyway?)
Don't they get too hot for the lense?
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Re: Just installed relays on my dual rounds and WOW!!! (euro90gtx)
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quote:[HR][/HR]I need to put relays on mine I running H-4's with 90/100 watt bulbs in them and running 130watts in 5" H-3 and everytime I turn high beams on the fuse pops. Is that cause im not running a relays?
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Yeah, i doubt your wiring can handle 260 watts... I have my centerlights wired to a relay and fog switch. Hit that, and 240 watts of ion blindness even make lifted trucks flash their highs at me.
Re: Just installed relays on my dual rounds and WOW!!! (euro90gtx)
The reason your fuse is blowing is because you have to many amps running thru your system. DON'T just put in a higher amp fuse. The reason the fuse is that size is because your wiring can only handle so much and something has to give with that many amps and they put a fuse in there so you will fry it instead of your wiring. Upgrade the wiring and put in relays. I have a question about your H4's. You say your are running 90/100 watts that should be 90 watt lows and 100 watt highs. With that many watts on low don't other oncoming cars flash their lights at you because your lights are so bright? I found some 55/100's that seem like a good compromise. Low watt lows so I don't blind oncoming drivers but 100 watt highs for good visability when nobody is around. And what about your 130 watt H3's do you have any problem with the lens getting to hot and melting anything? I want to run 130 watt H3's but I am kind of worried about this.
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The reason your fuse is blowing is because you have to many amps running thru your system. DON'T just put in a higher amp fuse. The reason the fuse is that size is because your wiring can only handle so much and something has to give with that many amps and they put a fuse in there so you will fry it instead of your wiring. Upgrade the wiring and put in relays. I have a question about your H4's. You say your are running 90/100 watts that should be 90 watt lows and 100 watt highs. With that many watts on low don't other oncoming cars flash their lights at you because your lights are so bright? I found some 55/100's that seem like a good compromise. Low watt lows so I don't blind oncoming drivers but 100 watt highs for good visability when nobody is around. And what about your 130 watt H3's do you have any problem with the lens getting to hot and melting anything? I want to run 130 watt H3's but I am kind of worried about this.
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Re: Just installed relays on my dual rounds and WOW!!! (Caleb)
just dont leave the 130 watt lights on when youre at a standstill, and make sure its glass with a metal reflector.
just dont leave the 130 watt lights on when youre at a standstill, and make sure its glass with a metal reflector.
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Re: Just installed relays on my dual rounds and WOW!!! (Caleb)
The thing I'm worried about here is that the reduction of 2 lights (going from quad to single) is going to be substantial and I want someone to tell me otherwise!!
Come on all you guys with singles! Tell me how much better H4's are than 9004's!!!!!
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quote:[HR][/HR]Low watt highs so I don't blind oncoming drivers but 100 watt highs[HR][/HR]
Huh? Did you mean 50 watt lows, 100 watt highs? The thing I'm worried about here is that the reduction of 2 lights (going from quad to single) is going to be substantial and I want someone to tell me otherwise!!
Come on all you guys with singles! Tell me how much better H4's are than 9004's!!!!!
Re: Just installed relays on my dual rounds and WOW!!! (VWsuperhero)
Yeah I guess I got messed up with all this talk of highs and lows. I meant lower watt low beams and higher watt high beams. I will fix that now that you mention it.
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Yeah I guess I got messed up with all this talk of highs and lows. I meant lower watt low beams and higher watt high beams. I will fix that now that you mention it.
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Re: Just installed relays on my dual rounds and WOW!!! (Caleb)
No I never really have cars flash me, there aimed to the ground so they dont shine to much up in the air. The bulbs Im running are Xenon plurple bulbs kinda shine like HID's. As for the 130 watt H-3's I never really turn them on well cant turn them on because the fuse keeps poping.Yea the lights them self get pretty hot but not hot enough to crack or pop the bulb(knock on wood) but H-4's run pretty hot anyway. So I should run a relay for them or thicker wire or both?
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No I never really have cars flash me, there aimed to the ground so they dont shine to much up in the air. The bulbs Im running are Xenon plurple bulbs kinda shine like HID's. As for the 130 watt H-3's I never really turn them on well cant turn them on because the fuse keeps poping.Yea the lights them self get pretty hot but not hot enough to crack or pop the bulb(knock on wood) but H-4's run pretty hot anyway. So I should run a relay for them or thicker wire or both?
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Re: Just installed relays on my dual rounds and WOW!!! (euro90gtx)
Oh god...you really need to rewire and relay with that wattage.
I'm running 9004's on a dual round 55/65 100 setup. Nice, but needs aiming. Relayed though, and I love the highs compared to the aeros I had on my other car.
Oh god...you really need to rewire and relay with that wattage.
I'm running 9004's on a dual round 55/65 100 setup. Nice, but needs aiming. Relayed though, and I love the highs compared to the aeros I had on my other car.
Re: Just installed relays on my dual rounds and WOW!!! (alphaDUB)
YES YES OH GAWD YES. Night and day difference, both in brightness and beam spread.
I currently have the euro aero lights - H4 bulbs (55 low /100 hi) with city lights. They're certainly noticably better (both low and high beam) than the stock USA model lights, but also different in some key areas:
1) The low beam cutoff is more distinct - almost unnerving, in that there's a pretty sharp horizontal cutoff, above which there's very little light. On curvy mountain roads you can get into a situation where you're coming into a downhill left hander and not see the entire road because you don't have quite enough beam scatter. With fogs it's OK - they make up for it.
2) The low beam pattern ("spread") in front of the car is more even - not splotchy like the stock USA model aero lights, and definitely better than the USA spec 7" rounds (GTI style).
3) The bulbs are slightly brighter in "stock" 55/60W configuration, with relays you can run 55low, 100W high (which is what I run) and get some "aircraft landing light" high beams - like laser beams. I want to try some 80 low / 100 hi but have not yet, I'm guessing that may tip off Johnny Law - and in NJ there are car inspections and they DO check for DOT lights (so I had to keep the stockers)
4) The high beams are night and day different - better, more focused, VERY bright.
The aeros look almost ENTIRELY stock unless you know what you're looking for - which is an advantage, stealth-wise. The city lights do kind of give them away, though. I've had my wife following me in my car and the lights have a little of that euro-look to them, they're not just bright white blotches like USA spec lights - you can see some pattern in the lights themselves, but nothing obnoxious (again, you have to be looking for it to see it).
I had the quad round euros (7" outside, 4" inside) on my old '91 16V GTI - the euro quads are better than the aero euros on high beam (twice the lighting - where the aeros are only "amazing", the quads are "unbelievable") but both euros are comparable (very good) on low. The USA dual-rounds are awful, blotchy. I wouldn't run >100W in any light, though - there's diminishing returns with higher wattage, and a lot of heat and amperage to consider.
USE RELAYS! you don't want to fry wiring. It smells awful, and roadside fires are ugly things that spoil other Dubber's commutes.
YES YES OH GAWD YES. Night and day difference, both in brightness and beam spread.
I currently have the euro aero lights - H4 bulbs (55 low /100 hi) with city lights. They're certainly noticably better (both low and high beam) than the stock USA model lights, but also different in some key areas:
1) The low beam cutoff is more distinct - almost unnerving, in that there's a pretty sharp horizontal cutoff, above which there's very little light. On curvy mountain roads you can get into a situation where you're coming into a downhill left hander and not see the entire road because you don't have quite enough beam scatter. With fogs it's OK - they make up for it.
2) The low beam pattern ("spread") in front of the car is more even - not splotchy like the stock USA model aero lights, and definitely better than the USA spec 7" rounds (GTI style).
3) The bulbs are slightly brighter in "stock" 55/60W configuration, with relays you can run 55low, 100W high (which is what I run) and get some "aircraft landing light" high beams - like laser beams. I want to try some 80 low / 100 hi but have not yet, I'm guessing that may tip off Johnny Law - and in NJ there are car inspections and they DO check for DOT lights (so I had to keep the stockers)
4) The high beams are night and day different - better, more focused, VERY bright.
The aeros look almost ENTIRELY stock unless you know what you're looking for - which is an advantage, stealth-wise. The city lights do kind of give them away, though. I've had my wife following me in my car and the lights have a little of that euro-look to them, they're not just bright white blotches like USA spec lights - you can see some pattern in the lights themselves, but nothing obnoxious (again, you have to be looking for it to see it).
I had the quad round euros (7" outside, 4" inside) on my old '91 16V GTI - the euro quads are better than the aero euros on high beam (twice the lighting - where the aeros are only "amazing", the quads are "unbelievable") but both euros are comparable (very good) on low. The USA dual-rounds are awful, blotchy. I wouldn't run >100W in any light, though - there's diminishing returns with higher wattage, and a lot of heat and amperage to consider.
USE RELAYS! you don't want to fry wiring. It smells awful, and roadside fires are ugly things that spoil other Dubber's commutes.
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