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Re: motor is done... (1.BillyT)

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Happened at 35psi, second gear, just as peak boost hit.
Either the rod let go, or the rod bolts let go. Hard to tell from what I have been able to see so far. The rod cap is in perfect shape, but the rod junk, pulled it out of the oil pan
Pulling the head tomorrow to check the valves. Plugs looked perfect.
I had been driving the car all week at 23-24 psi, even seeing 30 a couple of times, and it was fine, pulled hard... but as soon as she saw 35psi again... boom!
Please, no one tell me they are sorry it happened. This is a good thing and is sending me in a new direction. New motor is getting built ASAP, so really, it isn't a big deal.
Guess all you guys that thought I was lying about the stock motor feel kinda silly now, don't ya...

I'll try to get pics of everything as soon as I can.
Mad powa coming soon...

ouch, what fuel were you on? still the sweet smelling stuff?
this really sucks, i wanted to see 500wheel...
oh well, life goes on.
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Re: motor is done... (CapeGLS)

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Can't wait to see it at WF. You gunna have the new engine all done intime? http://****************.com/smile/emthup.gif

i would hope that this year all the 1.8t heavy hitters will bring something good to the table...
i seriously think this year that the 1.8t's will wreck shop at WF...
i wouldnt be surprised if he got it back on the road in 2 weeks.
http://****************.com/smile/emthup.gif for a motivated dood.
 

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Re: motor is done... (1.BillyT)

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You know, the funny thing about this, is that I have the rod cap too... and it is perfect. Absolutely perfect... I think the problem with this wasn't so much that the rod broke, but the rod bolts let go... that would explain the hole in the oil pan, the perfect rod end cap, and all of the ensuing destruction....
The last motor that let go, and pretty much all the other guys I have seen that posted pics of blown motors, all still had the rod attached to the crank. interesting....

that is interesting...
ive never had a broken rod bolt.
2 motors, 2 shattered rods, both engines have seen nitrous. both cyl number 1.
i know both of my engines have seen detonation on a damaging scale.
and if you didnt detonate and the rod isnt too chewed up to bad im sure it will tell the story...
who knows maybe the rods are stronger than we thought and the rod bolts are the true weak link... but im not going to find out. you guys can if you want.
 

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Re: motor is done... (1.BillyT)

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I thought the stock rods had a different shape at the wrist pin, which was also in the stock piston, and that was the issue with running aftermarket rods with stock pistons... is that old disproved news?

ok these guys that are going to buy an aftermarket rod and think that an aeb or awd piston will work will be shooting themselves in the foot when they find out they will have to have the rod end machined to accept the piston...
stock rods have a funky tapered end and the pauters dont have this tapered end and im pretty sure that the other aftermarket rods available are the same... its not a wrist pin issue, its the rod end...
aftermarket rods were designed around your typical aftermarket piston...
it wouldnt be a true VW/Audi part if it works with an aftermarket part lol



Modified by CEL-4-LIFE at 9:43 AM 4-13-2005
 

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Re: motor is done... (QuickK03Crap)

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I already asked him. He says it looks like it would work and if not, machine the pistons. Apparently Pauter has instructions on their site how to do it.

LOL pauter is not going to condon the machining of any part within the rotating assembly...
if you shave the rod down then you better make sure they are still balanced within the .XXX grams pauter machines them within each other...
and if you file the piston down you will be there for while lol.
enjoy that bullet in the foot...
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Re: motor is done... (bobqzzi)

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What do you mean? would what work?
Sticking a set of AWD/AEB/AMU pistons with a set of "standard" rods would work fine.
Getting a set of rods with an 18mm pin to fit AWW/AWP pistons would work fine.
Machining a set of AWW/AWP pistons to take a "standard" is a fools errand.

im going to disagree for argument sake...
have you actually tried awd/aeb pistons and aftermarket rods?
my awd pistons wouldnt accept my pauter rods. but hey if you can get it to work then sweet on ya.
 

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Re: motor is done... (bobqzzi)

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Okay..., can't argue with a man who has had them in his hand- can you tell me what, exactly wouldn't fit?
Ekta lists the rods for AEB/AWD/AMU as 027 198 401B...same as a 2.0 16V...dimensionally the same as all the early 1.8/2.0 VWs....which means a 'standard" aftermarket rod should fit just fine. My Eurospec rods fit my AMU pistons. BUT should doesn;t mean will...

Modified by bobqzzi at 1:49 AM 4-14-2005

after installing the pistons onto rods, i put the rest of the bottom end together and blam!!! she was binding up... after further inspection the head of the rod was coming in contact with the inside of the piston... i mean alittle bit of file work would take care of it, but screw that, it wasnt worth my time... i was doing this for experimental purposes.
this was a spare awd short block i had sitting around so i pulled the rods and pistons while my built motor was down and gave it a shot because i was willing to do anything to cure my knock issues back when i got this bisnatch running last summer.
so i tried it, didnt work, said screw it, ill wait for standalone and just run a bone stock motor.
 

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Re: (kilmer420)

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red X

you mean to tell me you have never heard of the RED-X line of billet, forged, cast rods? man, wtf Val. it combines the properties of a cast rod, forged rod, and a billet rod all in one.
hell even those cast carbide composite coated rods too...
 
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