My 5k oil change cost only this much.......................

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TheRedDuke

Discussion Starter · Feb 7, 2002

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Greetings All,
Just got the 5k oil change done and the dealer only charged me $37.00 inlcuding labor. I know, I know, some of you are wondering "Isn't this the guy who wanted the info on how to do it yourself?" True! The only problem being that I couldn't get my hands on the pela pump in time and on the morning I set out to do this, the temp dropped to 23 degrees with out the wind. So you could understand my wanting another venue. Anyway, I live in Westchester County New York and the closest dealership is over in Greenwhich Connecticut (Biff & Muffy land), I took it over there and after reading all of the threads on this web site about $75 oil changes, I prepared for some major damage report on my wallet. The guy told me ahead of time that it would only set me back the $37 and I was very surprised! I don't know if this is common practice at all vw dealerships, but they also washed the car and had some really great coffee while I waited.
Oh by the way, I've read here about how the charleston rims won't fit on 02 models and low and behold, as I'm getting ready to leave, there's a reflex silver model with said charlestons sitting in the bay next to my car. I thought I would like having those rims on my car, but after seeing them "In the flesh", I changed my mind. There was a model out in the lot with the capezio rims on it and I thought those went much better with the car. Just one fellows opinion! Hope some of you out there have as good luck as I had!
02,AnthBlu,LuxPack,GryLeath,Hoping To Mod Soon!
The Red Duke

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GTIcrazy

· #2 · Feb 7, 2002

Re: My 5k oil change cost only this much....................... (TheRedDuke)

Um...shouldn't that be FREE from the dealer?

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song

· #3 · Feb 7, 2002

Re: My 5k oil change cost only this much....................... (GTIcrazy)

Starting I think in 2001.5, service under 20K miles is no longer free. But extended the bumper to bumper warranty.
For my 30K mile service. One dealer wanted $90, the other across town wanted $27. That is messed up.

av_audi

· #4 · Feb 7, 2002

Re: My 5k oil change cost only this much....................... (GTIcrazy)

It's starting with MY2002 that service is not free. Remember all the discussions about which New Passat "deal" was better, a 2001.5 with 24k B2B, 100K power, and 24 maintenance, or a 2002 with 50k B2B, 60K power, and no free service?

mauslick

· #5 · Feb 7, 2002

Re: My 5k oil change cost only this much....................... (song)

2002 no longer has the free matainence but the longer warrenty.......
I was suprised also when my dealer quoted me 29.95 for the 5000 mi service....I brought in the mobil one so it ended up 23 and change.....
now we'll see what happens for the 10,000 service coming up in a few weeks.....

Bob Roberts

· #6 · Feb 7, 2002

Re: My 5k oil change cost only this much....................... (mauslick)

Isn't it interesting how the dealership quotes one oil change interval, but the owners manual quotes another, much longer interval?!!!

mr.bouton

· #7 · Feb 7, 2002

Re: My 5k oil change cost only this much....................... (song)

MY2001 including 2001.5 has the 2/24 bumper to bumper with free maintenance (10/100 powertrain). It changed for MY2002 to 4/50 bumper to bumper without free maintenance (5/60 powertrain).

Passat2001_5lover

· #8 · Feb 8, 2002

Re: My 5k oil change cost only this much....................... (Bob Roberts)

Bob Roberts..... my 2001.5 manual says to change oil every 5K miles. Does your dealer suggest changing less then 5K miles?

Just say Mo

· #9 · Feb 8, 2002

Re: My 5k oil change cost only this much....................... (TheRedDuke)

I'm taking ours in today for the 5000 mile service. The dealer quoted me $24.95 for the 5000K service. That includes washing and vacuuming ...
UPDATE I just had my 5000 mile service yesterday .... or so I thought. I paid $25 for oil (10w-30) , filter & new washer (according to the bill) and was happy as could be until I checked under the hood.
Heeding the warnings others have given on this forum about shoddy STEALership service I marked the oil filter the morning I took it in. After the "service" I got the car back washed and vacuumed. I even commented to the service staff how pleased I was with the experience. I drove about 2 miles to a mall, did some shopping and ate lunch. A little over an hour later I returned to my car (that I had purposely parked on a level spot) popped the hood and to my HORROR saw the filter had not been changed. I pulled the dip stick and it was nearly an inch over the MAX fill bend.
I imediately called the STEALERship (Karmart VW-Burlington, WA) the, service manager was out to lunch. I drove the car to a German Car Speciality shop 2 more miles down the road and asked for there assistance which they graciously provided.
About that time I got a call back from the STEALERship and she said I was mistaken. She said she had the old filter right in front of her and I would not have been able to "mark" the filter as it is underneath the car. At the time I was in front of my car with TWO mechanics. I asked them to point out the oil filter to me and they did so. The even saw the marks I had put on the filter this morning. I told her she was lying but she continued to deny any that anything had been done.
The shop I was at graciously drained the oil (which still looked very dark) to the correct level and scheduled me for an appointment next week.
When I got home I did get a call from the head honcho of Parts & Service and he admitted the service had been botched and would send my check back to me. Better late than never I guess?
My advice to EVERYONE is to mark your filter and check the oil level soon after you get the car back. I would have been perfectly happy with the experience had I not checked and gladly sent in the satisfaction form with all 5 marked. You can guess what they will be marked now ...
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[Modified by Just say Mo, 7:04 AM 2-9-2002]

[Modified by Just say Mo, 7:05 AM 2-9-2002]

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passatcabrio

· #10 · Feb 8, 2002

Re: My 5k oil change cost only this much....................... (Bob Roberts)

Bob -
5k mi for oil changes for Passats, nothing longer in the manual. I assume it's not different in Canada, other than being stated in km (?).
RedDuke -
On the rims I don't think it's been determined positively what B5 rims will or won't fit on 5.5's.
The bolt pattern is the same but the offset is slightly less on the 5.5's (37mm vs 45mm) so there is some risk of interference, but at least one model can been mounted on 5.5's without issues (don't recall which), per a discussion on clubB5 maybe a month ago.
There is no question the dealers will tell you it won't work, but that's only because that's what the parts books say. (They also continue to say switchblade remotes won't work on cars that originally came with banjo remotes and make other similar claims which were proven wrong long ago.)

av_audi

· #11 · Feb 8, 2002

Re: My 5k oil change cost only this much....................... (passatcabrio)

quote:[HR][/HR]The bolt pattern is the same but the offset is slightly less on the 5.5's (37mm vs 45mm) so there is some risk of interference...[HR][/HR]

I noticed that in DriverGear they always specified either 98-01 or 01.5+ for Passat alloys. I didn't know the offset was different, but a 7mm difference doesn't seem insignificant enough to be automatically ignored.

passatcabrio

· #12 · Feb 8, 2002

Re: My 5k oil change cost only this much....................... (av_audi)

I'm not suggesting to automatically ignore anything.
However just because the book doesn't support the notion that they might fit doesn't necessarily mean they won't. There are a lot of factors - tire size (i.e. 225/50-16's may be an issue, but 205/55-16's may not), tire mfr (width can easily vary by 7+ mm amongst some mfrs despite being labelled the same size), exact wheel size/model (16's may have more clearance than 15's, Charlstons with more open spokes may have more clearance than Swings with the fatter spokes). Get the picture???
Note also the examples cited about at least one model of B5 wheel that's been mounted on a 5.5 without problems and the switchblade remote which I can tell you personally will work on any B5 despite what the book/dealer says.
As stated in similar previous posts, I have sets of both the B5 16" Swing and 15" Adelaide wheels and would be willing to test fit with anyone who has a 5.5 in my area. Would be nice to settle this definitively rather than behaving like sheep just listening to what the dealer's parts book says.

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Bob Roberts

· #13 · Feb 8, 2002

Re: My 5k oil change cost only this much....................... (Passat2001_5lover)

The manual in my Golf recomends 15 000 kilometers as a change interval while the local dealer recomends 5 000 kilometers. 1.6 kilometers equals one mile. My Passat manual does not state a recomendation(older car 1995).
Just food for thought. I change my own oil approx every 10 000 kilometers or 6250 miles

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supertle

· #14 · Feb 9, 2002

Re: My 5k oil change cost only this much....................... (Bob Roberts)

How much Oil does the '02 Passat need for the oil change? I want to bring in my own oil also to save some $$.
Let me know, thanks in advanced.

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av_audi

· #15 · Feb 9, 2002

Re: My 5k oil change cost only this much....................... (passatcabrio)

quote:[HR][/HR] tire mfr (width can easily vary by 7+ mm amongst some mfrs despite being labelled the same size), exact wheel size/model (16's may have more clearance than 15's, Charlstons with more open spokes may have more clearance than Swings with the fatter spokes). Get the picture???[HR][/HR]

Yes I do. Incidently, I didn't imply that you who said the 7mm offset should be ignored. But wheel offset is not improtant just for clearance purposes. It can also alter suspension geometry and have an effect on handling.

mauslick

· #16 · Feb 9, 2002

Re: My 5k oil change cost only this much....................... (av_audi)

i took in four quarts for the oil change

passatcabrio

· #17 · Feb 11, 2002

Re: My 5k oil change cost only this much....................... (av_audi)

Thanks for the clarification. You have a good point about the suspension geometry. I'm not an expert on how much is a problem, although I think I've read that up to 10 mm difference from stock is acceptable (and don't know if going one way vs the other is worse). Tirerack may be a good source to answer that. I believe the aftermarket wheels they sell don't always match the stock offset and they have to answer to their customers about that.

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