My understanding is that 2005 is the next body dramatic styling change for the Golf and Jetta alike....there are a few depictions floating around here....with no search.....it's hard to find them though...
If the new TT is based on the MK5 Golf platform , then the new car is going to be longer wheelbase for a start , id also say it will be longer and wider than the current car , which means that the new Octavia will also come out as a bloated mess as well...just how big do our cars need to get?? Its no secret that the new Polo is around the same size as the MK1 Golf , whereas the original Polo wasnt much bigger than the Lupo....how long till a Jetta is the size of a 2002 Passat??? http://****************.com/smile/emthdown.gif
According to rumors, the Golf V is to be introduced in Europe in the fall of 2003 as a 2004 model. In the past, the Golf has always gone on sale in Europe for 1 model year before being introduced in North America. Not sure if they will do that again for the Golf V, but if they do, that means it would be introduced in North America in the fall of 2004 as a 2005 model.
The replacement for the Bora is supposed to go on sale in Europe in the fall of 2004 as a 2005 model.
The Mk V models are said to be about 2.5 inches longer, 0.5 inches wider and the same height as the MkIV. However, the wheelbase is 4 inches longer than the MkIV allowing for more rear seat room.
The MkV cars will also be getting a new 4-link independant rear suspension, replacing the twist beam axle.
Some of the rumored engines for the North American models include:
SOHC 2.0L 115hp, 125lb-ft. - 5-speed manual or 4-speed auto
DOHC 16V 2.0L 136hp, 148lb-ft. - 6-speed manual or 4-speed auto
DOHC 16V 2.0L Turbo 180hp, 181lb.ft. direct injection gasoline (replaces 1.8T) - 6-speed manual or 5-speed auto
DOHC 24V 3.2L VR6 240hp, 236lb-ft. - 6-speed manual or 5-speed auto
2.0L direct injection turbo-diesel 136hp, 236lb-ft - 6-speed manual or 5-speed auto
Don't worry. MkV's are expected to be lighter, even though they will be a little longer and wider, so they won't be (relatively) as porky as MkIVs.
The B6 Passat according to what Jamie's posted at the Passat forums is supposed to get like 4+ inches longer and 3 inches wider and basically move up to compete with the E-Class. I'm guessing that leaves the already-upscale Jetta (most new Jettas I see are GLX's) to grow larger and fight the midsized sedans of the world while the Passat and Phaeton take on the luxury sedans.
Remember, VW's product lifespan is about 8 years (compared to the average 4-5 year lifespan). So, that's 1998-2006. Expect the MkV's to hit the US in 2005 as 2006 models, and one year earlier in Europe. We'll probably see their debut or at least photos in a year or so, so I don't think its too long a wait.
But, with the exciting engine lineup up ahead, I'm still anxious. 2.0 Turbos, 3.2 - 3.6l VR6's, 2.0l TDIs... whew!
quote:[HR][/HR]Remember, VW's product lifespan is about 8 years (compared to the average 4-5 year lifespan). So, that's 1998-2006. Expect the MkV's to hit the US in 2005 as 2006 models, and one year earlier in Europe. We'll probably see their debut or at least photos in a year or so, so I don't think its too long a wait.[HR][/HR]
VW's product cycle is actually closer to 6-7 years:
A3 Jetta: 1993-1998
A3 Golf: 1992-1997
A4 Jetta: 1999-2004
A4 Golf: 1998-2003
B5 Passat: 1998-2004
I would expect the A5 Golf to arrive in the US in early 2004, the A5 Jetta in late 2004, and the B6 Passat in early 2005. VW has realized that their products are quickly losing ground to the competition and will speed up development as a result.
quote:[HR][/HR]I would expect the A5 Golf to arrive in the US in early 2004, the A5 Jetta in late 2004, and the B6 Passat in early 2005.[HR][/HR]
The Golf V-based MPV for Europe is expected to be released in the last half of 2003, and the Golf V is supposed to follow (in Europe) in 2004. That would put the Golf/Jetta at a 2005 US introduction, or perhaps a mid-late 2004 intro at best. The B6 Passat from vwvortex1's info is expected to debut in the US at the 2005 NAIAS, so it will probably be available shortly after as a 2006 model. Your timeframe will occur if VAG releases the models concurrently in Europe and the US, which indeed I think would seem possible, since, as you said, VAG is evidently realizing they need to keep up (or ahead) of the competition, or possibly also since they are realizing that the Jetta and Passat are fast becoming a lot more important in the US market.
The B5 Passat was first sold in Europe in the fall of 1996 as a 1997 model.
The MkIV Golf went on sale in Europe in 1997 as a 1998 model.
In Canada, the MkIV Jetta and Golf did not begin to arrive until December 1998. I can remember going to the local dealer around Christmas 1998 to check out the new Jetta. The MkIV introduction got delayed in North America. It was to have gone on sale at the begining of the 1999 model year in September 1998. As a result, Mk3's were sold as 1999 models for the first quarter of the 1999 model year.
I can't say much that hasn't already been said... The Golf is supposed to start production next summer and be introduced at the 2003 Geneva show, with the sedan version (not sure if they're still going to call it a Jetta/Bora) starting production early 2005. So it'll be a while until it all gets here.
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