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From: http://www.motornetireland.ie/news/articles/22100103.phtml
"So as not to upstage the launch of the all important Polo, VW have been keeping details of the next generation Golf under their corporate hat. However, some news is starting to leak. Firstly, we know the 3dr. and 5dr. hatches are going to look more different than before. In the past the two cars had strong visual links with one another, whereas the new 3 and 5 dr. Golfs will have a more individual flavour. The 3 dr. will have a smaller rear side window with a sporty, swept up appearance, while the hatch will have a straighter, more sober glasshouse.
      The new Golf is going to be bigger than before too, offering class-leading levels of interior space. Don't expect a wildly different car, though. Styling is very much an evolution of the current car and although it might not wow the crowds like the Focus, it's a good looking car that will appeal Golf owners everywhere.
      We can also expect to see an estate and saloon version, the latter car likely to retain the Bora badge (the Bora and Vento both carried the Jetta name in the US, were they were big sellers). The Cabriolet version is also going to be based on the new floorpan, unlike the current car which is a facelifted version of the Mk3 and is hopelessly out of date in terms of driving pleasure and packaging now. Sadly, the new car won't get a folding hard-top, relying, instead, on a multi-layer fabric item.
      Naturally, VW intend to enter the lucrative mini MPV market, and will use the new Golf as a base for its Scénic and Zafira rival. In fact, this is the model to be launched first and is expected to hit the streets more than a year before the rest of the models. It will probably be launched next year in Geneva, which will allow the new VW mini-MPV to get the jump on the expected Paris launch of the new Scenic. The VW MPV will have a 7 seater layout similar to that of the Zafira, but should be even cleverer when it comes to accommodating luggage.
      As in the current car, 4WD will be available, but this time it will be an option on all body-types, and an array of 5 and 6 speed gearboxes and automatic transmissions will also be available, depending on the model. As always, a bewildering array of engines will be available but as there isn't much wrong with the current range of engines they'll be carried over into the new car. Expect, therefore, to see an entry-level 1.4 (possibly 80ish bhp and/or 100 bhp), 1.8Turbo (125 bhp), 2.0 litre FSI (direct injection petrol, 150 bhp), the 2.3 litre V5 (170 bhp), 2.9 litre V6 (204 bhp) and 1.9 Turbo diesel (Common-rail, 100-130 bhp). Also rumoured to be in the pipeline is a new 3.2 V6 producing 250 bhp while the 2.5 litre V6 turbo-diesels from the Passat and Audi A4 and A6 could feature too, producing 150-180 bhp.
      It's too early to guess at prices, but expect the Golf to be a bit more expensive than its rivals when it's launched in 2003."
 

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OK, as promised, here's the scoop on the MKV directly from page 22 of the March 2002 issue of MotorTrend magazine. I'll save my comments and emoticons for my next post.
"Volkswagen's next Golf subcompact won't stray from the formula that's made it one of the world's most popular cars. But it will have a tougher mission next time around: Its image and its role within the VW Group family will be redefined as VW and Audi reposition other small cars to be sold in North America. The Golf will be a new model in the U.S. for the '04 model year.
Meanwhile, the Jetta (Bora in Europe) also will be all new for '04, bigger than the current model, and more distinct from the new Golf than the two cars are currently. What's more, Audi will begin importing its A3 hatchback about the same time the new Golf and Jetta arrive. That A3 will be the next-generation model, hinted by the Steppenwolf show car.
Expect the next Golf's engine lineup to be carried over the current car, including the 180-hp 1.8L turbo I-4, the 205-hp 2.8L VR6 and the 1.9L turbodiesel. The base 2.0L four, rated at just 115 hp, is aging quickly, however, and could use an upgrade if not an all-out replacement. As for the New Beetle, which is based on the current Golf platform, VW is said to be mulling over two options: either a replacement by 2005 or drop the niche car altogether. Stay tuned."
 

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Well, I'm speechless. New Golf, new engine (3.2L V6 250hp not mentioned in MotoTrend though), Audi A3 (!!!)... unbelievable. Let the speculations begin! I speculate that since A3 will be sold here, VW might drop GTI's price a bit. I bet A3 will be a pricey hatch and VW might differentiate between the A3 and the GTI by creating some price gap. OK, enough for now.
 

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GTIfreak!!!
Thank you I didn't get a chance to go buy the Motor Trend with
the Golf News so thanks for posting it!!
U THA MAN!!!!
The Golf News sound promising http://****************.com/smile/emthup.gif http://****************.com/smile/emthup.gif http://****************.com/smile/emthup.gif
 

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quote:[HR][/HR]From: http://www.motornetireland.ie/news/articles/22100103.phtml
Expect, therefore, to see an entry-level 1.4 (possibly 80ish bhp and/or 100 bhp), 1.8Turbo (125 bhp), 2.0 litre FSI (direct injection petrol, 150 bhp), the 2.3 litre V5 (170 bhp), 2.9 litre V6 (204 bhp) and 1.9 Turbo diesel (Common-rail, 100-130 bhp). Also rumoured to be in the pipeline is a new 3.2 V6 producing 250 bhp while the 2.5 litre V6 turbo-diesels from the Passat and Audi A4 and A6 could feature too, producing 150-180 bhp."[HR][/HR]​
What's this? Are these engine underpowered? Look at the 1.8Turbo spec; 125hp? What happened to the 180hp version? I hope I'm missing something, because I'm waiting for the new generation but I don't look forward to these weaker engines.
 

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The Turbo will be there with all of its 180 horses.
I think what they meant is a new 1.8L 4-cylinder with 125hp. (??) To tone down the Turbo to 125 hp they would have to do something really drastic, like take the engine out altogether.
 

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I think I like the new Phateon Styling oN VW's Cars. They look
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I find the Golf V design to be an insult to vw enthusiasts. they just keep getting fatter and fatter, heavier and heavier, uglier and uglier. VW started losing sight of what a real car is after the MK2. http://****************.com/smile/emthdown.gif

What is setting this thing apart from a new civic? matrix? RSX? it's horrid!
 

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quote:[HR][/HR]I find the Golf V design to be an insult to vw enthusiasts. they just keep getting fatter and fatter, heavier and heavier, uglier and uglier. VW started losing sight of what a real car is after the MK2. http://****************.com/smile/emthdown.gif

What is setting this thing apart from a new civic? matrix? RSX? it's horrid!
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The MkII/MkIII years nearly drove VW from US shores. The Mk IV and the Passat not only turn that around, they made VW into the new standard for automotive quality. I can accept a 2900 lbs golf as long as they get the suspension tuning right, something which they either don't know how to do or simply refuses to do.
 

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Even though the Mk5 Golf is going to be larger than the Mk4 Golf, it is rumored that the Mk5 will be a bit lighter than the Mk4, so handling will be more like a Mk2 Golf's.
 

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quote:[HR][/HR]Even though the Mk5 Golf is going to be larger than the Mk4 Golf, it is rumored that the Mk5 will be a bit lighter than the Mk4, so handling will be more like a Mk2 Golf's.[HR][/HR]​
There is currently a VW hatch that is roughly the size and weight of the MkII. In its GTi form it also has roughly the same engine power as the MkII GTi with notably better refinement thrown in. Its called the Polo, and sadly its not available in the US market.
 

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The MkII/MkIII years nearly drove VW from US shores. The Mk IV and the Passat not only turn that around, they made VW into the new standard for automotive quality. I can accept a 2900 lbs golf as long as they get the suspension tuning right, something which they either don't know how to do or simply refuses to do.[HR][/HR]​
yeh but it wasn't meant for the US market......
it's been on topsellers lists here all those years,.....
last couple of years Opel is taking over http://****************.com/smile/emthdown.gif http://****************.com/smile/emthdown.gif
 

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quote:[HR][/HR]There is currently a VW hatch that is roughly the size and weight of the MkII. In its GTi form it also has roughly the same engine power as the MkII GTi with notably better refinement thrown in. Its called the Polo, and sadly its not available in the US market.
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Besides the Polo GTI , there's the Brazilian Gol GTI, basically the same size and weight of the Polo, with a longitudinal 2.0 16V 145hp engine. Faster than a 1.8T 150hp MkIV stock and similar to MkII.
 

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quote:[HR][/HR]Besides the Polo GTI , there's the Brazilian Gol GTI, basically the same size and weight of the Polo, with a longitudinal 2.0 16V 145hp engine. Faster than a 1.8T 150hp MkIV stock and similar to MkII.[HR][/HR]​
Just how do you fit a longitudal engine in an A-platform chassis!?!! There seems to be no way for the tranny to intrude into the central tunnel area between the footwells without basically throwing the entire platform out of the window. My guess is that the engine in the Brazilian Golf is transverse like every other A-platform car.
Oh, BTW, the MkII 1.8/2.0 16v has never been really fast. It is about half a second slower to 60mph (about 7.9 vs 7.4) and 1 second slower in the 1/4 compared to the 150hp 1.8T. Besides, if the shift quality of the 1.8T's O2J gear box can be described as marginal, then that of the O2A in the Mk2 must be classified as pretty bad! The gear box is something VW just can't eem to get right, even the M350 6-spd is merely above average. Nothing shifts like a Civic (or integra; same box)! No, no even a BMW E46 M3 or a Porsche Boxster. Somehow Honda manages to work that light, smooth, well defined and precise feel into its econo cog-box. Maybe VW should take one apart and study it!
 

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quote:[HR][/HR]Just how do you fit a longitudal engine in an A-platform chassis!?!! There seems to be no way for the tranny to intrude into the central tunnel area between the footwells without basically throwing the entire platform out of the window. My guess is that the engine in the Brazilian Golf is transverse like every other A-platform car.[HR][/HR]​
It's not Brazilian Golf, it's called the "Gol". It's not an A-Chassis car. It's engine is mounted longitudinally, like the B1, B2, and B5 Passats. The Gol, Saviero, and Pointer are all built off of the same chassis, it's like a scaled-down B2 Passat (Quantum) chassis.
 
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