[2000JettaGLXVR6]

Just got to thinking. I can remember several major nameplates that got shorted in the first year of production...
- The 2006 E90 325 and 330 were the only years to have those engines before being upgraded to the 328 and 335 TT.
- The 2008 WRX got shorted the additional power and looks that the 2009 would get.
- It would seem that the MK5 Jetta SportWagen (which I have yet to even see in person) will only be around for a year and a half before being replaced by the MK6
Any other notable changes from other manufactures? Do you think this trend is becoming more or less common?

 

[bhtooefr]

Chances are, the Jetta SportWagen/Golf Variant are going to stay around longer.
How about the 2005.5-"2006" Jetta TDI? That one's gonna be a bastard child... (I put 2006 in quotes, because they made a BUNCH of the things with 2006 VINs, in calendar year 2006, but 2007 feature levels and owner's manuals, and when they were building gasoline cars as 2007s.)
Also, the 2004 Touareg V10 TDI, to an extent - only 500 exist. But, there is the 2006-2007... but it has different emissions controls.
Oh, here's another one. The 1998 Passat TDI. TWO exist. ETKA doesn't even acknowledge the existence of these two cars, although early versions of the B5 Passat Bentley manual mention it.

 

[leaftye]

Re: Odd first year cars (2000JettaGLXVR6)

The Corvette is kind of like that, but really because it keeps getting better.

 

[jrmcm]

Re: Odd first year cars (leaftye)

2004 GTO. Just one year of the LS1

 

[bhtooefr]

98 New Beetle 2.sl0s got cable throttle.
Same for 05 Elises.

 

[FELIX_NCL]

Re: Odd first year cars (2000JettaGLXVR6)

Quote, originally posted by 2000JettaGLXVR6 »

Just got to thinking. I can remember several major nameplates that got shorted in the first year of production... - The 2006 E90 325 and 330 were the only years to have those engines before being upgraded to the 328 and 335 TT. - The 2008 WRX got shorted the additional power and looks that the 2009 would get. - It would seem that the MK5 Jetta SportWagen (which I have yet to even see in person) will only be around for a year and a half before being replaced by the MK6 Any other notable changes from other manufactures? Do you think this trend is becoming more or less common?

The 3 series still gets those engine in europe.
318, 320, 325, 330, 335 and M3
Estate versions of Golfs tend to stay around for a further 18 months to 2 years after the Hatch has been replaced.

 

[MattyDVR6]

Re: Odd first year cars (FELIX_NCL)

isn't Ford notorious for weird Mid-year changes?

 

[JustinCSVT]

Re: Odd first year cars (leaftye)

Quote, originally posted by leaftye »

The Corvette is kind of like that, but really because it keeps getting better.

Yeah, the '97 C5 and '05 C6 are oddballs.

 

[WannaCorrado]

Re: Odd first year cars (2000JettaGLXVR6)

1993 Volvo 850. the only year before 2 immediate facelifts.. old fashioned bumpers, single chamber larger headlights with 9003 bulb and glass lens.
1994 with sunroof had new style bumpers. I believe later 94's also had new nose with new headlights with dual chambers and plastic lenses.
1995 - all 850s had facelifted front lights, bumpers, and new "aero" rear tail lights.
also 1997 Volvo 850 GLT was the only 850 with the light pressure turbo, replaced by the S70.
1993

 

[VWestlife]

Re: (bhtooefr)

Quote, originally posted by bhtooefr »

Oh, here's another one. The 1998 Passat TDI. TWO exist. ETKA doesn't even acknowledge the existence of these two cars, although early versions of the B5 Passat Bentley manual mention it.

1998 was also the only year the B5 Passat had green dashboard lighting and amber side turn signal repeater lenses. In 1999 the interior lighting changed to red/blue and the side blinkers changed to clear lenses to match the Mk4s and New Beetle.
The 1994 Jetta GLX VR6 and 1995 Cabrio, both first years for those models, were built in Germany. Assembly moved to Mexico the next year for both.
The 1999 Mk4s were officially known as the New Golf, New Jetta, and New GTI, due to overlap with the existing Mk3 models. In 2000 the "New" was removed from the names. VW did the same thing with the 2005 New Jetta.
The 1998 New Beetle was the only year without any side turn signal repeaters, either on the front fenders or on the side mirrors.

 

[Noisyninja]

Re: (VWestlife)

2004 STI's used 5x100 hubs like the WRX and Impreza. The STI went to 5x114 in 2005.

 

[WestPalmWinner]

'10 Jag XF will come with a 5.0L V8 putting out ~375 hp, vs '09 with 4.2L V8 with 300 hp.

 

[Spindle]

Re: (VWestlife)

First year ?
1982 Cavalier w/a 1.8L....
First production runs had a horrible underpowered unbalanced 1.8L I4 which was so bad that Chevy (IIRC) replaced it mid-year with a differently designed 2.0L. The 2.0 carried on for another ~5 years...
(I had an '82 with the aforementioned 1.8L...and yes, it was truly an awful engine...)

 

[VarianceVQ]

Re: (Spindle)

E46 BMW 328Ci: Only for 2000 MY, I believe.
Split into 325Ci and 330Ci for 2001.

 

[VWestlife]

Re: (Spindle)

Quote, originally posted by Spindle »

First year ? 1982 Cavalier w/a 1.8L.... First production runs had a horrible underpowered unbalanced 1.8L I4 which was so bad that Chevy (IIRC) replaced it mid-year with a differently designed 2.0L. The 2.0 carried on for another ~5 years...

Wikicars (not to be confused with Wikipedia) claims that the 1.8L continued into 1983, when the 2.0L became available as an option. However, the EPA database only lists the 2.0L engine for 1983 (and only the 1.8L for 1982).
Whatever the year(s), the 1.8L Cavalier also only had a 4-speed manual (or optional 3-speed automatic); the 2.0L gained an optional 5-speed manual, although the 4-speed manual didn't disappear until 1988, when the 5-speed finally became standard.
Also: 2000 was the first and only year for the Saturn LS-series (LS, LS1, LS2, LW1, and LW2). In 2001 it was renamed the L-series (L100, L200, L300, LW200, LW300) due to alleged confusion with the Lexus LS and Lincoln LS.

 

[WD-40]

Re: (VWestlife)

Quote, originally posted by VWestlife »

The 1998 New Beetle was the only year without any side turn signal repeaters, either on the front fenders or on the side mirrors.

The '98 was actually a lot more different than that:
- prop-rod hood instead of hydraulic
- circle tweeter grills instead of triangle
- d-pad mirror switch instead of a knob
- banjo remote and separate key
- no overhead storage bin/sunglasses holder.
- key slot on passenger side door.
- Some didn't have ABS
.. and a number of other things.
http://newbeetle.org/forums/showthread.php?t=8981

 

[Chris16vRocco]

Re: (WD-40)

The first year Nissan Armada was called the Pathfinder Armada.
The 1996 Audi A4's trunklid used the same trunklid as in Europe, with the wide spot for the Euro license plate, 97 and later cars had a narrower US-plate trunklid.
75 Sciroccos had two front wipers, while the rest of the Mk1 Sciroccos (76-81) had one wiper. 75 and regular 76 Sciroccos were carburated, while the 76.5 "Super Scirocco" was the first fuel injected one in the US. 82 Sciroccos (the first year of the Mk2), as well as early 83 models, had one wiper, while 83.5 and later cars had two. The 82 Scirocco also had a unique folding 2-piece parcel shelf.
The 1975 watercooled VWs have the rear badges reversed from 76 and later cars. In 1975 the model name was on the left side of the hatch and Volkswagen on the right. Starting in 1976, they had Volkswagen on the left and the model on the right.


Modified by Chris16vRocco at 9:01 PM 8-5-2008

 

[nm+]

Re: (bhtooefr)

Quote, originally posted by bhtooefr »

Oh, here's another one. The 1998 Passat TDI. TWO exist. ETKA doesn't even acknowledge the existence of these two cars, although early versions of the B5 Passat Bentley manual mention it.

Yup, there used to be one in MSP.

There's also the ol' 05 LGT manual wagon.
Also the 2005 non-limited GTs which got cloth and a real roof, while 06+ has a manditory limited package with leather and roof holes.
06 spec Bs (thats' sort of a 1st year) came with a 5-speed while 07+ specs get a 6-speed. Also, the 06's had limited numbers, not so for the 07+.
2004 GTo was 5.7, rest were 6.0s

 

[WhiteRat]

Re: Odd first year cars (WannaCorrado)

Quote, originally posted by WannaCorrado »

1993 Volvo 850. the only year before 2 immediate facelifts.. old fashioned bumpers, single chamber larger headlights with 9003 bulb and glass lens. 1994 with sunroof had new style bumpers. I believe later 94's also had new nose with new headlights with dual chambers and plastic lenses. 1995 - all 850s had facelifted front lights, bumpers, and new "aero" rear tail lights. also 1997 Volvo 850 GLT was the only 850 with the light pressure turbo, replaced by the S70. 1993

Another difference (at least for US models) was the 1995 model had DRL's.

 

[Algorithm]

Re: (nm+)

1996 dodge viper rt/10. It was kind of like a generation 1.5 and was only around for a year. The gts of the same year was a second gen.
Very odd.