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I recently registered on this forum having been a longtime lurker on here. Ive also been a golf r fan for a long time but have noticed a strange trend since the announcement of the Ford Focus rs. It is important to note that I am not a focus owner nor am I a golf owner. I will be purchasing a new vehicle in the upcoming year and being the car enthusiast that I am I have explored all options in this category. I have a particular "fetish" if you will for interior quality, fit and finish, material use, and design.

That being said, I noticed in so many posts that golf r owners seem to justify their choice of vehicle over similar cars in its category due to the superior fit and finish of the interior. I could only do so much reading before I had to find out the truth for myself. I made the trek to the Detroit auto show last week and spent a lot of time in all the relevant cars including the golf r, focus rs, sti, 235i, and cla.

I have got to say that most of you are simply wrong regarding the interior superiority of the golf r over the focus rs. Keep in mind where I'm coming from. I believe the sti interior is garbage, the 235 interior is outdated, and the cla45 is in a different price range. When it comes to the focus however, I strongly feel that the switchgear and materials are at the very least on par with the golf r. Sitting inside the golf r is sort of strange. It made me feel separated from the car in a way the focus did not. The flat dash and wheel feel as though they are very far away from you and any sense of intimacy with the car is lost. I'd compare it to the feeling of sitting behind the wheel of an suv. In addition, I found the piano black interior trim to be abhorrent and is quite possibly the worst material you can use on the inside of a car. It feels light, cheap, and it attracts fingerprints and dust like crazy. The touch screen looks outdated, it is small, and its implementation is noncreative and boring. The seats in the golf are not bolstered enough and do not have the racy feel that you'd expect from a car with an "R" after its name.

I had to mention these things because I believe too many golf R owners hide their insecurities regarding their cars relevance next to the focus rs by citing the interior quality. It is simply not true in my unbiased opinion.
 

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I had to mention these things because I believe too many golf R owners hide their insecurities regarding their cars relevance next to the focus rs by citing the interior quality. It is simply not true in my unbiased opinion.




Opinion noted. I haven't sat in a Focus RS yet but I watch a lot of car reviews and every reviewer mentions how great the interior of the golf R is compered to other 30-40K hatchbacks. Compared to other hatchbacks, I agree. The Focus RS is the only one I haven't sat in.

Having sat in an Focus ST and a Taurus SHO, I think the Golf R is as nice as those.
 

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Totally agree with you, I too feel separated from the car seating inside where MK6 was so much better in that regard but the driving experience makes up for it.
Fit and finish is OK nothing to rave about, one thing recently I've found out in my car that pissed me off is rear door panels are bare plastic even up top.
Most folks who own the car be it BMW VW or MB will justify their purchase and tell you that you are in the wrong car and forum if you complain.
I'm fine with it since its my beater and get me to work in any weather car.
 

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Sitting inside the golf r is sort of strange. It made me feel separated from the car in a way the focus did not. The flat dash and wheel feel as though they are very far away from you and any sense of intimacy with the car is lost. I'd compare it to the feeling of sitting behind the wheel of an suv. .

You lost my attention there :laugh:. You act like the seat and steering column are totally static.

Funny how days after the RS is reviewed, tons of low post users show up seemingly out of nowhere.
 

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LOL Some people have wayyyyyy too much time on their hands. Glad YOU cleared the air for us. :screwy::screwy::screwy::screwy:
 

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Ha. Fwiw, the RS in Canada starts (base) at $47k, or, $4000 more than a loaded DSG/Techpack R.

I already have friends getting quotes with a healthy dealer markup and/or they're not ordering in cars that are base model.

So, and this is just my opinion, the interior had better be on-par. I know the dynamics will be awesome, all the RS cars from Ford Europe have been a lot of fun (my favourite being the old Escort RS)

Let the gouging commence…
 

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You lost my attention there :laugh:. You act like the seat and steering column are totally static.
I'm not so sure about that. I went from a MKV GLI to the R just last week and that's the first thing I noticed, how separated from the dashboard I felt like. I liked the feel of the dash better in the MKV than in the MKVII in general, but that's just preference and I am sure I will soon feel at home in the R.
 

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LOl this guys thinks that nobody else has sat in a focus and hes some sort of HIGHLY INDEPENDENT REVIEWER.:laugh:

The focus interior is not only significantly worse in materials, but ugly and cramped. OP must be a very small person.

If any thread should be locked on RS vs R its this sh*tshow
 

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I don't like to shut down 1st-posts from a new user. They're being pretty diplomatic, perhaps you could follow suit. :beer:
 

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I recently registered on this forum having been a longtime lurker on here. Ive also been a golf r fan for a long time but have noticed a strange trend since the announcement of the Ford Focus rs. It is important to note that I am not a focus owner nor am I a golf owner. I will be purchasing a new vehicle in the upcoming year and being the car enthusiast that I am I have explored all options in this category. I have a particular "fetish" if you will for interior quality, fit and finish, material use, and design.

That being said, I noticed in so many posts that golf r owners seem to justify their choice of vehicle over similar cars in its category due to the superior fit and finish of the interior. I could only do so much reading before I had to find out the truth for myself. I made the trek to the Detroit auto show last week and spent a lot of time in all the relevant cars including the golf r, focus rs, sti, 235i, and cla.

I have got to say that most of you are simply wrong regarding the interior superiority of the golf r over the focus rs. Keep in mind where I'm coming from. I believe the sti interior is garbage, the 235 interior is outdated, and the cla45 is in a different price range. When it comes to the focus however, I strongly feel that the switchgear and materials are at the very least on par with the golf r. Sitting inside the golf r is sort of strange. It made me feel separated from the car in a way the focus did not. The flat dash and wheel feel as though they are very far away from you and any sense of intimacy with the car is lost. I'd compare it to the feeling of sitting behind the wheel of an suv. In addition, I found the piano black interior trim to be abhorrent and is quite possibly the worst material you can use on the inside of a car. It feels light, cheap, and it attracts fingerprints and dust like crazy. The touch screen looks outdated, it is small, and its implementation is noncreative and boring. The seats in the golf are not bolstered enough and do not have the racy feel that you'd expect from a car with an "R" after its name.

I had to mention these things because I believe too many golf R owners hide their insecurities regarding their cars relevance next to the focus rs by citing the interior quality. It is simply not true in my unbiased opinion.
Hi. You must be new to vw forums.

Go back to any generation and it will be "blah blah blah, their interior sucks"
 

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Ford sucks, especially me being a German I know there's a reason why vdubs are always used as a benchmark of comparison in Europe. The devil is the detaiI, on vag vehicles you will even see attention to detail where you don't even look at, not just the cabin. Forged door hinges, laser welds etc. can't say the same about Ford.... haven't sat in the new RS yet, but I had a few ford products in the family and ALL of 'em had issues. The only nice Ford is a pick up truck.
 

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How did I never see it until now? My god you are right, I'm going to trade my R in on a RS, 10k markup be damned. Don't know what I was thinking buying this car.

This bolstering is indeed pathetic, I was blind before but now I see...




It's certainly no match for the bolstering in the 911...
















/sarcasm.
 

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There are lots of very emotional responses in this thread, bolded words, people asking for a thread close, etc. This is essentially my point. Like I said I've been browsing this board for quite awhile and I really like the golf R. The only reason I joined and started this thread is because I thought it was really strange and revealing when people would make seemingly insecure remarks regarding interior quality. This is more of a reflective post where I think golf R owners should take a look at the things they're posting and ask themselves if their opinion is based on experience and reality or if they are blinded by the fact that their investment in their car has blinded them to the truth.
 

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Anyone here that also participates in other communities knows that our purchases are a part of our identity. Brands run the world now and when you go to a community that's pro-xxxxx and call out the shortcomings without first building up your social value in that community, you're going to get push-back.

If I went to an Android lovers forum with a yesterday join-date and talked about how iOS does some things better, I'm going to get laughed out of there. If I spend 6 months there as a contributor and highlight how iOS does things better as a part of a discussion comparing the two, the conversation would start civil and eventually go south. That's just the nature of brand-identity that we all have whether we want to admit it or not.

I think any comparison threads should just go to the car lounge because at least there everyone will have different bias and can possibly look at things with more open-eyes.

You didn't do anything wrong but it's one of those "what did you expect" sort of deals. Head over to Tesla forums and talk up the merits of a petrol engine and see how it goes.



I'm not going to pas judgment on the interior of the RS until I've sat in one. Thanks for sharing your thoughts though. I think it's cool you got to see all of those cars in a single day! I need to go to more car-shows.
 

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There are lots of very emotional responses in this thread, bolded words, people asking for a thread close, etc. This is essentially my point. Like I said I've been browsing this board for quite awhile and I really like the golf R. The only reason I joined and started this thread is because I thought it was really strange and revealing when people would make seemingly insecure remarks regarding interior quality. This is more of a reflective post where I think golf R owners should take a look at the things they're posting and ask themselves if their opinion is based on experience and reality or if they are blinded by the fact that their investment in their car has blinded them to the truth.
 

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Who doesn't defend a purchase when there's large money/ego involved? What were you expecting? The R isn't perfect, and i'm sure once I get to pound on an RS for a week, I'll find flaws in it as well.

While I own a Golf R, I drive every-day cars and exotics week to week (press cars), so I'm not as emotionally invested in my purchase or the baggage that goes with it.

I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt, but you're now showing off your best Fox Mulder impression.
 
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