[bhtooefr]

They actually sell this thing in the US, in the Suzuki Verona (a rebadged Daewoo Magnus.)
It's a 2.5L in the cars sold here, they've also got a 2.0L in Europe.
Window sticker fuel economy was 20/27, with a 4-spd auto. And the thing weighs 3380 pounds.
Oh, and it only has 155 hp @ 5800 (less than the updated VAG 2.5) and 177 ft-lbf @ 4000 (admittedly, lower RPM for the same torque as the VAG 2.5.)
These numbers just seem... weak.
Is this engine exceptionally smooth, or something? Why did Daewoo bother using a straight-6 when a straight-4 would've made much more sense, and they had access to the massive GM parts bin of Ecotecs?
I was reminded of these things because I was driving behind a Verona today... no, I don't want one.

 

[J-Tim]

Re: OK, what the hell? Daewoo straight-6... (bhtooefr)

Who cares if it's weak. It's a straight six, for chrissake, so it's smoother than a <insert favorite female body part>
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[bhtooefr]

I can't even find any videos of the exhaust note of the thing... crazy.

 

[Guest]

FV-QR

The straight six predates the takeover by GM. The car was basically done when GM came in, so they put it into production since the tooling was already ordered and ready to go. Otherwise, it's a lame-ass engine.

 

[Chris16vRocco]

Re: (bhtooefr)

Quote, originally posted by bhtooefr »

I can't even find any videos of the exhaust note of the thing... crazy.

Who would film the exhaust note of a Daewoo?

Image uploading. Refresh page to view

(Other than you, I mean)

 

[bhtooefr]

Re: FV-QR (Swallow Doretti)

Quote, originally posted by Swallow Doretti »

The straight six predates the takeover by GM. The car was basically done when GM came in, so they put it into production since the tooling was already ordered and ready to go. Otherwise, it's a lame-ass engine.

The thing is, they're actually still using the thing in a new model... Must have spent a lot on that tooling.

 

[adrew]

Re: FV-QR (bhtooefr)

Here is some info:
http://www.autoweb.com.au/cms/....html

 

[BRealistic]

Supposedly that engine was co-developed by Porsche.
http://www.caranddriver.com/re..._test

 

[bhtooefr]

Jesus:

Quote »

Compactness of design – The reduction of engine length by adopting 6mm bore bridge with Silitec aluminium cylinder liner and 12mm cam chain system to obtain engine length of just 642mm. Reduced engine width by adopting narrow angle port cylinder head.

Just for a quick comparison, the EA827 2.0TFSI is 652mm long, according to Wikipedia.

 

[Guest]

FV-QR

Yes...Porsche was Daewoo's engineering consultant. Porsche also helped Hyundai co-develop its current four-speed automatic.

 

[adrew]

Re: FV-QR (Swallow Doretti)

I'm a sucker for oddball cars, too. I've never been able to find a picture of it without the cover.

 

[bhtooefr]

You know, I just got a sick, totally pointless idea, that would be better accomplished with a VR swap (except, based on that one external dimension of the engine, and the fact that it's got an aluminum block, this may just be LIGHTER than a stock 8v...)
Mk2 with an engine out of a wrecked Verona, and a trans out of a Daewoo Tosca 2.0 in Europe.

 

[yoohoorocket]

I love straight 6's but I would rather drink my own diarrhea than buy/own/drive a Daewoo.

 

[Jetty!]

Re: (BRealistic)

Quote, originally posted by BRealistic »

Supposedly that engine was co-developed by Porsche. http://www.caranddriver.com/re..._test

LOL that the Verona body was conceived by ItalDesign.
This company designed both this:

And this:

Why would you need to outsource such a generic shape?

 

[Live-Wire]

Re: OK, what the hell? Daewoo straight-6... (bhtooefr)

For when it came out... it wasn't terrible power from a 2.5L and it's probably smooth as silk... but they should have learned from Volvo that a straight six mounted the wrong way makes for an annoyingly wide turning circle and the need for a very compact transmission.
Volvo and Daewoo are the only ones that have tried the transverse I-6 tho!
^^ Both engines were developed with Porsche Engineering too, although the Volvo I-6 was designed for longintudinal mount originally... just thought I'd point out that Porsche worked on both those engines.
Yah Ital-design styled it... they style a lot of Korean cars.. but remember it's up to the Korean management to decide on which shape to purchase tooling for... and how the car should look... Ital Design is working for them... not handling them their drawings and saying - buy the tooling to make this car.


Modified by Live-Wire at 10:06 PM 10-16-2008

 

[Guest]

FV-QR

Italdesign also did the first-generation Hyundai Excel and the Hyundai Scoupe. Daewoo was basically copying Hyundai's playbook in terms of using vendors.

 

[BRealistic]

Re: FV-QR (Swallow Doretti)

Quote, originally posted by Swallow Doretti »

Yes...Porsche was Daewoo's engineering consultant. Porsche also helped Hyundai co-develop its current four-speed automatic.

But the strange thing is... this engine didn't compete well with any car 6 cylinder engine that was already on the market. Maybe the Taurus vulcan, but that's an 80s design in a much heavier car.
It sounds like it was designed to fit a size, which seems to have forced huge compromises on the engine's performance.

 

[bhtooefr]

Re: OK, what the hell? Daewoo straight-6... (Live-Wire)

Quote, originally posted by Live-Wire »

Volvo and Daewoo are the only ones that have tried the transverse I-6 tho!

Not completely true. (I've been researching the transverse I6.)
British Leyland did it 27 years before Volvo, in the Austin Tasman and Austin Kimberley X6.

 

[VWn00b]

Re: OK, what the hell? Daewoo straight-6... (bhtooefr)

So, who's going to put on in a Miata?

 

[bhtooefr]

God damnit, now you gave me a bad idea that's extremely intriguing.