As long as the oil meets VWs spec, which is the same on both containers than let your wallet choose the least expensive. This spec also applies to the 1.8 L.
Passat VR6 owners
What's the deal with Castrol's 5w-40 offerings ?
I did my first oil change at 5k and purchased everything from the dealer. Total w/ filter $72 Castrol edge OE 06256.
Advanced Auto has 06249 for 5qts for $27.99. Amazon has 6 pack for $48.45.
Seems like a good deal, but curious if 100% same spec oil ?
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I did my first oil change at 5k and purchased everything from the dealer. Total w/ filter $72 Castrol edge OE 06256.
Advanced Auto has 06249 for 5qts for $27.99. Amazon has 6 pack for $48.45.
Seems like a good deal, but curious if 100% same spec oil ?
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Seems to be the case. I thought I read that 504/507 oil could be used too. Since it looks like 5w-30 is an option too.
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Ok so the "black" bottle is fine. According to Castrols website it specs a little higher too. Also 5w-30 is fine if it meets 502.
Again viscosity is one thing and film strength is another. My 2007 Dodge Ram used 5w-20. Many cars today do too. 15 weight oils are coming soon.
I feel my TDI ran hotter than my VR6 and it ran fine on a high spec 30 weight. I'm fine using a 40 weight oil, but feel the same with a 30 weight if spec'd enough.
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Again viscosity is one thing and film strength is another. My 2007 Dodge Ram used 5w-20. Many cars today do too. 15 weight oils are coming soon.
I feel my TDI ran hotter than my VR6 and it ran fine on a high spec 30 weight. I'm fine using a 40 weight oil, but feel the same with a 30 weight if spec'd enough.
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Arduous > grueling > laborious > strenuous haha
So no other oil spec can meet those onerous demands ? Curious when VW502 was made. Early 2000's ? So it's quite possible we've advanced enough to protect with
superior blends, meeting higher # VW spec and able to deal with Arduous situations ?
What's missing from these is the oil change interval recommendation at the time they were made. VW 502 was for how long ? 5k miles ?
Also 502 replaced 500 and 501 which used an “old” oil specification from the 90's.
Or was 503 made for those "extended" 10k runs ? Then 503.01 was made for an even higher demand
yet both are superseded by a superior blend > VW504
VW 502.00
Oil for gasoline engines. Successor of VW 501.01 and VW 500.00 specification. Recommended for those which are subject to arduous conditions. It must not be used for any engines with variable service intervals or any which are referred to under other specifications.
VW 503.00
Long-life gasoline engine oil for VW cars with WIV (system for longer service intervals). Also meets ACEA A1, SAE 0W-30 or 5W-30 specification.
VW 503.01
This specification is specifically for Audi RS4, Audi TT, S3 and Audi A8 6.0 V12 models with outputs of more than 180bhp, running with variable service intervals (30,000km or 2 years). Now superceeded by the VW 504.00 specification.
VW 504.00
The VW 504 00 specification superceedes the VW 503 00 and VW 503.01 specifications. VW 504 00 oils are suitable for engines meeting the demands of Euro IV emissions standards.
VW 505.00
Passenger car diesel engine oil specification, minimum performance level CCMC PD-2. Lists viscosities SAE 5W-50, 10W-50/60, 15W-40/50, 20W-40/50 requiring 13% max. evaporation loss and SAE 5W-30/40, 10W-30/40 requiring 15% max. evaporation loss.
5w-40 weight is in my car, but if I need to change my oil during or before winter, it'll be a high VW spec 30w oil. FYI, There are 0w-30 weight oils that meet VW 502. In fact, most oils that meet VW502 meet VW 505. Just like 504/507. Many feel strongly that a hard running motor needs a thicker oil. But if the oil specs improve and a manufacturer says it's ok. Well ? They would know, no ?
Notice VW 508/509 are 0w-20 and ok for diesels. Thinner is coming
.........VW is just slow to change !
So no other oil spec can meet those onerous demands ? Curious when VW502 was made. Early 2000's ? So it's quite possible we've advanced enough to protect with
superior blends, meeting higher # VW spec and able to deal with Arduous situations ?
What's missing from these is the oil change interval recommendation at the time they were made. VW 502 was for how long ? 5k miles ?
Also 502 replaced 500 and 501 which used an “old” oil specification from the 90's.
Or was 503 made for those "extended" 10k runs ? Then 503.01 was made for an even higher demand
yet both are superseded by a superior blend > VW504
VW 502.00
Oil for gasoline engines. Successor of VW 501.01 and VW 500.00 specification. Recommended for those which are subject to arduous conditions. It must not be used for any engines with variable service intervals or any which are referred to under other specifications.
VW 503.00
Long-life gasoline engine oil for VW cars with WIV (system for longer service intervals). Also meets ACEA A1, SAE 0W-30 or 5W-30 specification.
VW 503.01
This specification is specifically for Audi RS4, Audi TT, S3 and Audi A8 6.0 V12 models with outputs of more than 180bhp, running with variable service intervals (30,000km or 2 years). Now superceeded by the VW 504.00 specification.
VW 504.00
The VW 504 00 specification superceedes the VW 503 00 and VW 503.01 specifications. VW 504 00 oils are suitable for engines meeting the demands of Euro IV emissions standards.
VW 505.00
Passenger car diesel engine oil specification, minimum performance level CCMC PD-2. Lists viscosities SAE 5W-50, 10W-50/60, 15W-40/50, 20W-40/50 requiring 13% max. evaporation loss and SAE 5W-30/40, 10W-30/40 requiring 15% max. evaporation loss.
5w-40 weight is in my car, but if I need to change my oil during or before winter, it'll be a high VW spec 30w oil. FYI, There are 0w-30 weight oils that meet VW 502. In fact, most oils that meet VW502 meet VW 505. Just like 504/507. Many feel strongly that a hard running motor needs a thicker oil. But if the oil specs improve and a manufacturer says it's ok. Well ? They would know, no ?
Notice VW 508/509 are 0w-20 and ok for diesels. Thinner is coming
.........VW is just slow to change !In case you need more convincing(about oil viscosity not that I'm nuts),here are some specs from the Manufacturers websites. You'll see some 30w oils have a thicker oil viscosity at 212°F than some 40w oils. And some 5w-40 oils have a lower pour point than some 5w-30 oils. Also the TDI spec, 504/507 oil has the highest flash point and is 11.7 to the OE VW 40w oil's 12.1. Royal purple 30w oil has the least viscosity at that temp. While Castrols 0w-30 oil has a thicker viscosity than the OE 40w oil @ 100°C(212°F)
So again there is Viscosity and there is film strength. One is more important than the other
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So again there is Viscosity and there is film strength. One is more important than the other
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