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Pick up my new GTI today!! Engine break-in question

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I pick up my new Black Magic GTI tonight! Woo hoo!
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I have a question for my fellow owners. I have a feeling that this might be a controversial topic, but I would like to hear some opinions. What is the recommended break in procedure for the 2.0t?
Thanks in advance!!!!
 
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Re: Pick up my new GTI today!! Engine break-in question (JosephH1)

No flooring it. Use max 3/4 throttle only. Keep the RPMs from approaching redline- no more than 4k RPM if possible. Once you have 600 miles on her then limit your hard accelerations (redline) until you pass the 1000 mile mark. Then have fun!
 
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Re: Pick up my new GTI today!! Engine break-in question (walrond)

well i stay away from cruise for 500 miles. vary your rpms to break it in. dont go past 5k for the first 600 miles. after that, no rules.
some will say dont go past 3k for 1000 miles. i think this is overkill. these arent 85 buicks.
congrats! i love mine!
 
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Re: Pick up my new GTI today!! Engine break-in question (Ear Candy)

this has been thrown around in the 2.0t forum and someone said that you should break your car in the way you're gonna drive it....i babied mine until about 200 miles and then started to drive it nice til it heated up and run it once during your trip, i'm not banging gears in my car but i am taking it close to redline. i make sure it's at 190 before i run it hard and always let it sit for a good 30-45 seconds before i shut it off.
 
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Re: Pick up my new GTI today!! Engine break-in question (JosephH1)

Since TDI's and 2.0T both have turbo's, you need to set the piston rings in. In the TDI when cold (under first 3 white marks on temp gauge) I rev to 2500. Then once the gauge is past 3 white marks I rev to 3000. I am almost always shift after 3000. I am not revving past 3800 until after 1000 miles. Seems like a good break in procedure. you might be able to rev higher since the 2.0t goes to 6000 instead of 5000
here: Rules that apply for the life of the car
-When the engine is cold (below the first 3 white marks at the base of the temp gage) rev the engine to at least 2,500 rpms.
-When the engine is warmed up (above the first three white marks) Rev the engine to no less than 3,000 rpms.
The reason for this is to keep the turbo on boost, clear the VNT guide vanes and apply firm pressure to the rings for optimal sealing against blow-by gasses. The rings need the boost to seal since its a turbo charged engine, babying the engine is detrimental and will lead to issues with compression if done so for very long.
First 1,000 miles
Keep rpms below 3,800. Avoid steady rpms. Frequent firm application of power is strongly recomended up to 3,800 rpm. Avoid the use of cruise control so that you naturally fluctuate the power with your foot.
1,000-5,000 miles
Use the full 5,100 rpm power range. Avoid steady rpms. Avoid the use of cruise control. Frequent application of full throttle is recomended to help seat the rings. City driving is ideal for breaking in a TDI due to frequent stops and acceleration. Once you get to 5,000 miles change the oil and perform your first service per the manual
5,000-10,000 miles
Use of the cruise control is ok at this point since most of the initial break in has occured. Continue to use occasional full throttle accelerations to continue to seat the rings. You will notice the engine become slightly louder during this phase due to less friction from the engine breaking in (normal for a diesel to become louder under lighter loads). If your going on a long drive and you are using the cruise, every so often step on the peddle to accelerate up about 20 mph then coast back down to your preset speed.
10,000-60,000
This is when the rest of the break in occurs. The engine from the factory will check out with about 475psi of compression pressure out of the crate. It will take at least 60,000 miles to reach the peak pressure of 550psi. For the most part once you get to 10,000 miles your compression will be around 510psi meaning that most of the break in has occured.
60,000-the life of the motor
The engines I have seen so far using a 5w40 oil are maintaining 550 psi of compression pressure with over 200,000 miles on the odometer. The owners have followed the advice above and do not have any oil consumption issues. This also means that with the higher pressure the engine is more efficient returning optimal fuel economy and reduced smoke output.


Modified by 97VWJett at 3:37 PM 5-31-2006
 
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Re: Pick up my new GTI today!! Engine break-in question (badbav6shot)

Quote, originally posted by badbav6shot »
Am I wrong, but coolant heats up much faster than oil. Oil temp is what matters. If youre going to talk "getting on it", get an oil temp gauge.
Heh, break-in felt like forever.

Haha I say trick question. They both heat up. Water heats faster but I would kinda lean towards oil heating up first.


Modified by 97VWJett at 4:14 PM 5-31-2006
 
#9 ·
Re: Pick up my new GTI today!! Engine break-in question (97VWJett)

Although I totally agree with 97vwjett, I didn`t have that option with our new 2006 GTI. It wasn`t until I was signing the papers that I noticed the GTI had 450+ miles on it, When I inquired about it, the salesman replied that the vehicle came from afar and was driven to the dealership, and this was sort of a show piece for them, that this GTI was basically passed around to let other surrounding dealers have a look see. While we were completly overwhelmed with the GTI, I overlooked the odometer. I can`t imagine that this GTI had a reasonable first couple of hundred miles. So since I travel approx 1000 miles per week, I have used the cruise, but varied the speeds thru the cruise stalk/handle. and have varied speeds when not on the cruise. Since we now have 2500 or so miles on the GTI, I have cruised pretty steadily. I figured the harm or not was already done from wherever the miles came from. I shared our concerns with the salesperson and asked are these miles all from test drives? you guys know what that`s all about. But being overwhelmed with the new GTI and this was the only one on the lot, we still bought it. Their standpoint is, it`s under warranty if anything goes wrong...
The GTI runs strong, isn`t using oil so far, and getting really good gas mileage. But it will always be in the back of my mind, how this GTI started out life! We have always been the ones to put on miles right from the start. Hope I don`t have any problems...FastMK5...
 
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Re: Pick up my new GTI today!! Engine break-in question (badbav6shot)

Quote, originally posted by badbav6shot »
Am I wrong, but coolant heats up much faster than oil. Oil temp is what matters. If youre going to talk "getting on it", get an oil temp gauge.

You're definitely right. Oil takes way longer than coolant to heat up. Ive seen it on cars with oil temp gauges. So people that stomp on it as soon as the coolant is up arent being as careful as they could.
 
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Re: Pick up my new GTI today!! Engine break-in question (FastMK5)

I understand where you are coming from! That is a slightly unfortunate situation for you. I had 150 miles on mine and I wondered how it was driven. Not as bad as you.
 
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Re: Pick up my new GTI today!! Engine break-in question (97VWJett)

I think I should be OK, all of my family memebers have had or have VW`s for years and currently still have them. A passat wagon was a company commuter car for my father and he drove it like he stole it from day 1, and went to 168,000 miles before selling it for another VW/Audi product...What do you think?...FastMK5...
 
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Re: Pick up my new GTI today!! Engine break-in question (JosephH1)

Best break in method IMO is right off the lot hit the highway, 5th gear gradually speeding up and gradually slowing down, then backup, backdown. Varying RPM between 3-4000rpm as you speed up and slow down. Make a couple hour trip out of it and when you get back you'll be set. Seriously that's all you need.
City driving and low rpms (below 1500 = hard on a new engine)
JJ
 
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Re: Pick up my new GTI today!! Engine break-in question (JosephH1)

Quote, originally posted by JosephH1 »
I pick up my new Black Magic GTI tonight! Woo hoo!
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I have a question for my fellow owners. I have a feeling that this might be a controversial topic, but I would like to hear some opinions. What is the recommended break in procedure for the 2.0t?
Thanks in advance!!!!

I wouldn't drive it full throttle untill after 1000k miles, and never when the engine is cold.
 
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Re: Pick up my new GTI today!! Engine break-in question (CDN_337)

Quote, originally posted by CDN_337 »
Best break in method IMO is right off the lot hit the highway, 5th gear gradually speeding up and gradually slowing down, then backup, backdown. Varying RPM between 3-4000rpm as you speed up and slow down. Make a couple hour trip out of it and when you get back you'll be set. Seriously that's all you need.
City driving and low rpms (below 1500 = hard on a new engine)
JJ

Are we talking about breaking in a car here, or a virgin?
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