[stiggy-pug]

Perfect for the US market. Oh, your car has cup holders, that nice, look at my car.

Hilarious!

Love it.

I'd go whole hog too and do up a wickedass livery scheme in orange/green for the car,
and also add righteous drip wardrobe-wise with a de rigueur rally jacket,
it'd be totally outtasite altogether!

 

[stiggy-pug]

As for pricing evaluation, looks like halfmillion nowadays?


This one sold earlier this month at $525,000:

1974 Lancia Stratos HF Stradale | Gooding & Company

Giuseppe Capra, Torino, Italy (acquired new in Torino, in 1974)Massimo Lotti, Rome, Italy (acquired from the above in 1980)Current Owner (acquired from the above in 2017)Private Collection, US (acquired from the above in 2017)Current Owner (reacquired from the above)Coachwork by BertoneChassis...

bid.goodingco.com

 

[NoGrip61]

If I ever went full-donkey into a kit car I'd absolutely build a Stratos replica..

Same, or I would love to buy a pre-built one at some point.

There was one called the Eagle that Top Gear featured right? It used a busso v6 from a donor car?

The (2?) Replica kit makers will only sell it to you with a handful of engine options; it used to be only Italian engines. The Busso 3.2L V6 used to be the top trim, but it looks like LB now offers the Toyota 3.5L V6 and a V8 now... I'll take the 3.5L toyota engine lol.

https://www.lbspecialistcars.com/str/

POWER
The preferred engine options are the transversely mounted Alfa Romeo “Busso” V6 in 2.5, 3.0 or 3.2litre variants, the Toyota derived 2GR-FE V6 and the transverse Ferrari motors in either V6 or V8 format.
Exhaust systems are fully repackable, are constructed from stainless steel and come with catalytic converters where required.
Engines are controlled by either the OEM engine management systems or in the case of tuned or non standard motors by means of a fully programmable after market ECU system.

 

[dubdaze68]

These are two of my all-time dream cars. If I ever hit the lottery, there would be at least one Hawk HF in my future. Two, if I won enough. One Stradale with Gp4 arches, and a full Safari Spec car on knobby, narrow, yellow wheels in full Alitalia livery.

 

[l88m22vette]

Don't forget about the insane Group 5 Turbo, which had a 560hp Busso and weighed about 1900lbs 🤣

 

[KKatso5]

These are two of my all-time dream cars. If I ever hit the lottery, there would be at least one Hawk HF in my future. .

You see, I said "Eagle"... it's "Hawk".... close enough

 

[Senior Member]

You see, I said "Eagle"... it's "Hawk".... close enough

Ban Eagle!

 

[stiggy-pug]

ROUND 2:

Driving the Ford RS200 and Peugeot 205 T16: Group B Rally Legends

The greatest rally cars of all time are intoxicating to drive. Here is their story.

www.roadandtrack.com

 

[dubdaze68]

Oh, man, what I wouldn't give for an RS200, even one that was just RWD.

 

[puma1552]

two strange esoteric cars that TCL creams themselves about that the general public, puma included, have never even heard of

 

[garageless]

While the Stratos is one of my all-time favorites, and RS200, 205 T16, or 6R4 would be grail cars for me. The R5 Turbo II was still cheap 15 years ago but that ship has sailed. I was a teen while the Group B cars raced and then watched them in rallycross as a young adult. These cars captured my imagination. The 205 was fast enough around some F1 circuits that it could have qualified on the F1 grid based on lap time.

 

[NoGrip61]

Oh, man, what I wouldn't give for an RS200, even one that was just RWD.

These are available as kit cars too; there's on local to me that I see at meets. I think it uses a Focus ST or RS engine.

https://www.rsretro.com/shop

EVO 200 - Rally Replica

The home of our own Ford RS200 Rally Replica, the EVO 200. Find news, products, vehicle information and how to order here.

www.rallyreplica.co.uk

 

[stiggy-pug]

While the Stratos is one of my all-time favorites, and RS200, 205 T16, or 6R4 would be grail cars for me. The R5 Turbo II was still cheap 15 years ago but that ship has sailed. I was a teen while the Group B cars raced and then watched them in rallycross as a young adult. These cars captured my imagination. The 205 was fast enough around some F1 circuits that it could have qualified on the F1 grid based on lap time.

205 is indeed particularly great on tarmac!

:

I'd also love to have a Nissan GTi-R, especially in LHD but much easier to find in RHD.

Here's one of those that CultivatedCollector sold on BaT last year:

4,700-Kilometer 1990 Nissan Pulsar GTI-R NISMO

Bid for the chance to own a 4,700-Kilometer 1990 Nissan Pulsar GTI-R NISMO at auction with Bring a Trailer, the home of the best vintage and classic cars online. Lot #87,076.

bringatrailer.com

 

[dubdaze68]

These are available as kit cars too; there's on local to me that I see at meets. I think it uses a Focus ST or RS engine.

https://www.rsretro.com/shop

EVO 200 - Rally Replica

The home of our own Ford RS200 Rally Replica, the EVO 200. Find news, products, vehicle information and how to order here.

www.rallyreplica.co.uk

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When you look at the rundown of what you get, that is really reasonable. Even though you would have a lot of finishing, building, and sourcing, that is phenomenal.

 

[stiggy-pug]

On topic of replicas,
MST just dropped a teaser yesterday about their upcoming 6R4.

MST are justly famed for their mk1 and mk2 Escorts:

MST Cars

MST Cars – Home of the all new MST Mk1 & Mk2 | Brand New Mk1 & Mk2 Road, Track or Rally A true classic with a modern twist View the Range MST Mk2 PURPOSE BUILT RALLY CAR GROUP-4RALLY CAR Brand new factory built, Group-4 spec rally car. Built from the ground up as a purpose built competition car...

mst-cars.com

So you know it will be done right 'n proper,
only drawback is bunch of cold hard cash.

We hadn’t heard much from MST in a while but then, last night, it sent out a Facebook post showing pictures of a 6R4 body under the heading ‘The All New 6R4 coming soon’. Obviously, we were straight on the phone to MST’s manging director, Carwyn Ellis, to find out more. Apparently, it all started after a conversation with Innovative Composites, which supplies carbon body panels for 6R4s. If there’s already a supply of body panels available, Ellis wondered, could MST make a bodyshell? So off he went and somehow found the original 6R4 jigs – he didn’t say how, exactly, but one wonders whether a phone call to Williams, which produced the original 6R4, was involved.

This is far from a fully-fledged car, with lots yet to be decided, so don’t expect a complete specification just yet. The project has been taking shape over the last couple of years, and here’s what we know so far – and this is straight from the horse’s mouth. Needless to say, it all centres on that new 6R4 shell. That’s built in-house, in steel, and based on the original steel monocoque with its integrated roll cage. It’s only the bodywork that differs significantly, being lightweight carbon fibre instead of the original’s GRP.

The suspension is produced by MST based on the original car’s set-up, but the springs and damps are still TBC. The final choice MST goes for will depend on various factors, but it’s likely to be a supplier that’s currently producing 6R4 components rather than starting from scratch. They will be motorsport-grade components and most likely three-way adjustable units.

The gearbox is a six-speed sequential transmission. That and the differentials for the four-wheel drive system are sourced from Sadev. And what about the engines? Well, you could have an original 6R4 naturally aspirated 3.0 V6 with around 400hp if you so desire. The problem with that is sourcing an original engine, as well as the associated cost: you’re talking between £40,000-£50,000, and that’s for something that still might need a rebuild. There is an alternative, though.

It's still a 3.0-litre V6, but supplied new by Audi – the EA837 engine from the B8 S4 and the original SQ5. It's a 24-valve 90-degree all-alloy V6 with forced induction rather than naturally aspirated, as per the original car. It’s an Eaton supercharger rather than a turbo providing the boost, though. Effectively it's supplied as a crate engine from Audi, and was rated up to 354hp with 347lb ft of torque (in the SQ5). Ellis suggested that the plan is to offer it with no mechanical upgrades as a rule. However, a Motortech ECU should allow it to develop around 450hp in the 6R4. If you want to go further, then MST will look at upgrading the mechanicals to effectively make it a motorsport specification engine.

Speaking of motorsport specification, MST will build two distinct versions of the 6R4. One will be a road version, with a plusher interior trimmed in Alcantara, and the other will be a stripped-out, lightweight track version. Ellis expects to have cars ready for delivery by the end of 2024 at the earliest, although that might roll into the beginning of 2025. The intention is to build around 10 cars per year. I asked him what the interest has been like so far. He said, “The Facebook post went out last night and this morning I already have 100-odd emails to sift through from people who are interested.”

The other question I asked him was how much? He told me they are so far away from finalising everything that he couldn't say for sure - but when pressed he said "probably around £300,000".

 

[Senior Member]

On topic of replicas,
MST just dropped a teaser yesterday about their upcoming 6R4.

MST are justly famed for their mk1 and mk2 Escorts:

MST Cars

MST Cars – Home of the all new MST Mk1 & Mk2 | Brand New Mk1 & Mk2 Road, Track or Rally A true classic with a modern twist View the Range MST Mk2 PURPOSE BUILT RALLY CAR GROUP-4RALLY CAR Brand new factory built, Group-4 spec rally car. Built from the ground up as a purpose built competition car...

mst-cars.com

So you know it will be done right 'n proper,
only drawback is bunch of cold hard cash.

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We hadn’t heard much from MST in a while but then, last night, it sent out a Facebook post showing pictures of a 6R4 body under the heading ‘The All New 6R4 coming soon’. Obviously, we were straight on the phone to MST’s manging director, Carwyn Ellis, to find out more. Apparently, it all started after a conversation with Innovative Composites, which supplies carbon body panels for 6R4s. If there’s already a supply of body panels available, Ellis wondered, could MST make a bodyshell? So off he went and somehow found the original 6R4 jigs – he didn’t say how, exactly, but one wonders whether a phone call to Williams, which produced the original 6R4, was involved.

This is far from a fully-fledged car, with lots yet to be decided, so don’t expect a complete specification just yet. The project has been taking shape over the last couple of years, and here’s what we know so far – and this is straight from the horse’s mouth. Needless to say, it all centres on that new 6R4 shell. That’s built in-house, in steel, and based on the original steel monocoque with its integrated roll cage. It’s only the bodywork that differs significantly, being lightweight carbon fibre instead of the original’s GRP.

The suspension is produced by MST based on the original car’s set-up, but the springs and damps are still TBC. The final choice MST goes for will depend on various factors, but it’s likely to be a supplier that’s currently producing 6R4 components rather than starting from scratch. They will be motorsport-grade components and most likely three-way adjustable units.

The gearbox is a six-speed sequential transmission. That and the differentials for the four-wheel drive system are sourced from Sadev. And what about the engines? Well, you could have an original 6R4 naturally aspirated 3.0 V6 with around 400hp if you so desire. The problem with that is sourcing an original engine, as well as the associated cost: you’re talking between £40,000-£50,000, and that’s for something that still might need a rebuild. There is an alternative, though.

It's still a 3.0-litre V6, but supplied new by Audi – the EA837 engine from the B8 S4 and the original SQ5. It's a 24-valve 90-degree all-alloy V6 with forced induction rather than naturally aspirated, as per the original car. It’s an Eaton supercharger rather than a turbo providing the boost, though. Effectively it's supplied as a crate engine from Audi, and was rated up to 354hp with 347lb ft of torque (in the SQ5). Ellis suggested that the plan is to offer it with no mechanical upgrades as a rule. However, a Motortech ECU should allow it to develop around 450hp in the 6R4. If you want to go further, then MST will look at upgrading the mechanicals to effectively make it a motorsport specification engine.

Speaking of motorsport specification, MST will build two distinct versions of the 6R4. One will be a road version, with a plusher interior trimmed in Alcantara, and the other will be a stripped-out, lightweight track version. Ellis expects to have cars ready for delivery by the end of 2024 at the earliest, although that might roll into the beginning of 2025. The intention is to build around 10 cars per year. I asked him what the interest has been like so far. He said, “The Facebook post went out last night and this morning I already have 100-odd emails to sift through from people who are interested.”

The other question I asked him was how much? He told me they are so far away from finalising everything that he couldn't say for sure - but when pressed he said "probably around £300,000".

http://imgur.com/KLvRCai

 

[Nealric]

Man would I love to build a Group B replica. The originals have become a bit too precious to properly hoon.

 

[garageless]

The 6R4 is just the coolest. The Metro was a pretty lame car that turned into something awesome. All the flares and wings. The change in motor is no biggie as many of them have been reengined with other options that weren't so expensive to maintain or replace. 300,000 is a lot for a rep, I can remember when I could find clubman spec 6R4s for under 30,000 US.

 

[Cr4shT3st]

The 6R4 engine went on to power the XJ220, right?

 

[dubdaze68]

Well, that looks amazing. That price better be for a completely finished car, though.