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Ok I know no spray from an auto store is going to the brake dust off, of my neglected rims. I have tried the screw driver method also, worked the best if your good at it, I need new rims also, so I too didnt care and they looked clean again last year. But they are pitted again after a long winter, who cleans their rims in the winter, hehehe.
Nobody seems to post after they get the stuff of, so I want to see wat works the best!
So from the search I have came to some conclusions:
Spray Nine
Simple Green
Elbow Grease
Wet Sanding??? Dont have a clue wat that is!
P21S Gel
Bug and Tar
Orange Glo
Oven Cleaner
Kerosene
May have missed some, add to the list!
Looking for an easy way, I know I should of taken care of them before, but too late now
 

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Re: Serious Brake Dust lets end this one too! (ArgjVR6)

No doubt, einszett wheel cleaner works the best. It is literally spray on hose off of my Audi wheels, and that dust is like glue. I have used the P21S Gel on the same wheels, but I had to scrub. I used to use Simple Green when I pulled the wheels off to clean them. Now I leave them on the car and use einszett. No BS, it is that good.
 

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Re: Serious Brake Dust lets end this one too! (Nin009)

I use Home Depot orange cleaner, ZEP brand in a 4L or 1L spray bottle.
http://members.shaw.ca/pferlow...e.htm There's pics here of rims I cleaned and shows some of the pitting. VW OE brake pads are total crap for brake dust. It's not my car but if it was I'd ditch those sooty pads yesterday.
 

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Re: Serious Brake Dust lets end this one too! (p_ferlow)

i ve used oven cleaner it brings my hub caps brand new http://****************.com/smile/emthup.gif
 

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I see you found my screwdriver method thread.
I finished two of my rims. It literally took me about 6 hours per rim, but my brake dust is gone. Some clarification, though, I didn't use a screwdriver for everything. Just a few especially nasty pits.
Here's what I did.
1. Washed my rims real good to get any loose dirt and grime off.
2. Using a small piece of 3M claybar, I rubbed the flat surfaces of my rims, occasionally wetting the claybar down with water for lubrication. The clay was noticeably turning horribly brown, so I knew it was doing something. Remolded the clay bar to expose a fresh surface and continued. Claybar shouldn't be harmful to your finish.
This method should remove all but the worst pits. To get the other stuff out, do the following at your own risk!
3. I got one of those green Scotch pads and got it soaking wet. Then rubbed the flat surfaces in a circular fashion to literally remove small layers of clear coat. This is your wet sanding. This may sound drastic, but it's the same thing a polish does to your paint when you remove defects from there. The reason for doing this is two-fold:
-The Scotch pad removed some of the deep brake dust, and smoothed out some of the pits
-The claybar is now able to reach some of the deeper seated brake dust, and was able to pull it out.
4. Some dust just WON'T lift out. And some dust was in the corner of my rims where I couldn't easily reach with the claybar or the Scotch pad. This is where I used the flat head screw driver, to very lightly scrape across the surface of the rim where the dust is. Doing this, you can feel each little piece of dust, and you can feel exactly where you need to apply pressure to remove it. If you do it right, you won't leave any visible scratches or marks. This takes practice.
Some may laugh at me, or tell me I'm an idiot for these methods, but in all truthfulness I was really experimenting more than anything. I was prepared to accept any horrible results that came along with it, and I didn't care. It is inefficient, and time consuming, and if I wanted to spend the money, it probably would've been a better idea to just refinish my rims. But I was having fun.
 

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The screwdriver and scotch pad is so time consuming when I did them but my friend said afterwards you got new rims on your after driving by! Is there any other method available, no spray at an auto part store will work. Thanks triumph I never did use the clay bar, will try it! Any easier method or should i just get them refinished for like $50 bucks a wheel.
 

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Re: (ArgjVR6)

I looked into refinishing, and the prices I found were more like 200 bucks or something outrageous like that! For that price you could buy new wheels. But if I were to do it again, I'd pay 50 bucks instead of doing all that work.
And wax your wheels in the future! Wash them once a week, too.
 

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Re: Serious Brake Dust lets end this one too! (ArgjVR6)

Simple Green seems to work well but really requires elbow grease for the full effect. Great for surface stuff but once you get to the hard stuff, all elbow grease.
 

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Re: Serious Brake Dust lets end this one too! (ArgjVR6)

I use P21S
I can't compare it to anything else beacuse I wouldn't use anything else. This is one product that makes you go
 

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Re: Serious Brake Dust lets end this one too! (WhiZa)

I have done head-to-head comparos with P21 and Eagle 1 A2Z (orange). The A2Z performs much better than P21 on VW dust. I have not tried the P21 gel.
 

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Re: Serious Brake Dust lets end this one too! (ArgjVR6)

I don't believe people actually use Screw Driver and brake dust in the same sentence together.
 

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Re: Serious Brake Dust lets end this one too! (ArgjVR6)

Anybody tried Wheelwax? It worked pretty well for me.... Not to mention it prevents break dust build up for a while.
 

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Re: Serious Brake Dust lets end this one too! (sula89)

I'm a big fan of Wheel Wax. It seems to make quite a difference. At the very least, the brake dust settles on the surface of the wheel more evenly, so it's not as obvious.
Anyone know if wheel cleaners remove the wax? I would assume so, and have been using only car shampoo since I've started waxing.
 

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Re: Serious Brake Dust lets end this one too! (3Dachs)

If you bought your car new and the rims are painted/clear coated....with normal care, you should NEVER have to use a wheel cleaner. All you need is a sponge and soap in a bucket...same stuff as you were washing the car with. Wax your wheels, and the dust will not stick to it that bad; if at all.
If you bought your rims used. Then use simple green. Then claybar the dirt off. Scrub hard. I guarantee you the dust will come up. If it doesn't, then the paint on the wheels is already ruined.
Screwdriver method LOL. Still get a kick out of that one everytime. I detail cars professionally, and I detailed a 1999 Dodge Dakota that hasn't been washed since Dec. 1998 back in 2002. I still got the rims perfectly clean with wheel cleaner, wash mitt and soap and a lil elbow grease.
 

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Re: Serious Brake Dust lets end this one too! (EnvyTheDub)

Quote, originally posted by EnvyTheDub »
If you bought your car new and the rims are painted/clear coated....with normal care, you should NEVER have to use a wheel cleaner.

I disagree. I have had my 20th Anniversary GTI for 2 months and I wash the wheels once a week. Despite scrubbing with simple green, there are still a few minnor black pits here and there. Once a week seems like normal care to me, brake dust on these cars is awful and just soap and a spong won't do anything but take some of the surface stuff off. But hey, if it works for you
But it doesn't work very well for me http://****************.com/smile/emthdown.gif
 

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Re: Serious Brake Dust lets end this one too! (blackmagicgti)

There are a couple of tiny pits on mine. But I just leave them. Not worth putting that nasty cleaner on them. Barely noticeable.
WAX YOUR WHEELS. The dust doesn't stick that badly!
But you are right, these cars are notorious for brake dust. All german cars are like this.
 

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Re: Serious Brake Dust lets end this one too! (EnvyTheDub)

Quote, originally posted by EnvyTheDub »
There are a couple of tiny pits on mine. But I just leave them. Not worth putting that nasty cleaner on them. Barely noticeable.
WAX YOUR WHEELS. The dust doesn't stick that badly!
But you are right, these cars are notorious for brake dust. All german cars are like this.


...(in the same breath we say) because German cars perform with well-engineered common performance materials, and common performance materials produce dust. And, if the word "But" gets capitalized because it leads a statement, surely we honor _German_ by capitalizing it.


Modified by jhillyer at 6:13 PM 7-27-2003
 
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