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i recently raced a guy with one of the blue si's (dohc vtech) he had those light stock si rims, cams,intake header ,exh.,cam gears,lower gears,and timming was messed with.... i have a stock 86' gti 1.8 8v with heavy 17' wheels i had an exh. but i have it off for now so all i have is a modded airbox and no exh just one cat and one stock muffler cause my car uses two! well i raced this guy and i beat him off the line like almost a car and then at top end he beats me by like 2 cars up to like 4th gear and then we stopped he had recently ran it at the track and he said that he ran a 15.4 what would my car run at the track if he beat me by two cars at the end of 4th gear? what do you guys think? oh and i think i did pretty good against that si! what are you guys think did i do good or thats pretty usual
 

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Re: slightly modded dohc civic si vs stock 8v (luisvr6)

quote:[HR][/HR]i recently raced a guy with one of the blue si's (dohc vtech) he had those light stock si rims, cams,intake header ,exh.,cam gears,lower gears,and timming was messed with.... i have a stock 86' gti 1.8 8v with heavy 17' wheels i had an exh. but i have it off for now so all i have is a modded airbox and no exh just one cat and one stock muffler cause my car uses two! well i raced this guy and i beat him off the line like almost a car and then at top end he beats me by like 2 cars up to like 4th gear and then we stopped he had recently ran it at the track and he said that he ran a 15.4 what would my car run at the track if he beat me by two cars at the end of 4th gear? what do you guys think? oh and i think i did pretty good against that si! what are you guys think did i do good or thats pretty usual[HR][/HR]​
The guy in the Si either sucks at driving or messed with his timing too much! He should run much better then a 15.4 with those mods(at sea level).
 

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Re: slightly modded dohc civic si vs stock 8v (MyBlackGti)

(you'll have no chance to take him..only with turbo..sorry..its the truth)
why do you say that?... if i had a cam, intake, headers, exh. and messed with my timing i would have done better and i think i might have been right next to him if not beating him. plus i had a fat ass on the pass. seat
 

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Re: slightly modded dohc civic si vs stock 8v (MyBlackGti)

quote:[HR][/HR]you'll have no chance to take him..only with turbo..sorry..its the truth[HR][/HR]​
sad but true...but I will kick some honda ass for ya'll when I get my mr2 turbo.
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Re: slightly modded dohc civic si vs stock 8v (jueve grande)

ok heres why you wont beat the civic SI.... the civic has 160HP! stock you aaabouttt 90 at most give or take a few.. he has all that work done also so that could put him around 170Hp(once again give or take a few) you with the mods would have abot 115 or so.. thats not gonna have a chance!!!! also another reason that guy definitly does NOT know how to drive. I had a 92 escort with 127hp do 15.6 at the track STOCK!



[Modified by 85'GoldGolf, 7:21 AM 8-4-2002]
 

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Re: slightly modded dohc civic si vs stock 8v (85'GoldGolf)

I agree about da 8v having no chance...even tho u might have equally same mod or more...the si will give more hp gain per mod than da 8v...a hedder alone can give it 15hp+....you will always have torque advantage of da line...hence faster take off...the only way u can beat si if he's weight down alot...I say u might have a chance against an EX...but it gonna be close...I beat an ex with exhaust in my mitsu truck and I pull away at upper rpm too...i heard his vtec kick in...didnt do much...but i have with flowmaster, slightly ported head, cam, lighten flywheel...i had so much torque i pull on him in 5th gear.
 

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Re: slightly modded dohc civic si vs stock 8v (87GolfKart)

i dont understand you people.....arent we all on VWvortex i could see if this was a HONDA forum it isnt so why are u people hating on 8valves so bad when for a fact the same werk that civic has to an 8v would take that si with ease


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Re: slightly modded dohc civic si vs stock 8v (lil8v)

i agree i have a 8v coupe with a cold air some g6o fuel things and a 4k trans
i will kill a si for a while.Hondas have like 170hp and like 110lbs thats no torque
ive beat alot of other car that i think are faster then that.
This is a vw site y are u siding with the honda peolpe.
 

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Re: slightly modded dohc civic si vs stock 8v (lil8v)

a BONE STOCK civic SI would eat up a 1.8 8v car even if it has a cam, header/exhaust, lightened flywheel blah blah. if the civic driver doesn't know how to drive the car correctly(not in V-tech at almost all times), then it MIGHT be a different story.
 

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Re: slightly modded dohc civic si vs stock 8v (lil8v)

Replies like the ones from lil8v and killacoupe make me want to stop reading this forum sometimes.
And peleeaaase with the torque argument. Like the 1.8 8v is a torque monster
I wouldn't be surprised both engines have an equal amount on power below 4k rpm. Only difference is ; when the 8v gets out of breath, the b16 keeps on going. Don't forget the b16 is coupled to a short close-ratio, short final drive tranny as well, which can make up for a lot.
Truth is, that guy was either lying about his mods or he can't drive for poop. The b-series engines respond VERY well to mods. Cams and IHE should put him in the 14s with a decent driver.
It's nice to like your car and all, but you have to know what it is and what it's not. You also have to know when your downright outgunned.
 

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Re: slightly modded dohc civic si vs stock 8v (luisvr6)

I own an 8v. I don't hate on it. But straight up... the 8v gets owned by the B16A2. Torque or no torque. The B16A2 with its short gear box keeps the motor revvin up high when its flogged. Oh yeah.. Stock SI wheels are heavy wheels.
 

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Re: slightly modded dohc civic si vs stock 8v (quazar311)

if your GTI is stock then SI should beat you by at least 5 to 10 cars.
Stock 8v can not do better than 17 flat. 1.5 sec difference translates into a very large distance
when you are speed is around 90 miles an hour.
 

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Re: slightly modded dohc civic si vs stock 8v (quazar311)

so the arguement is B16 vs 8vDigiII
well . . .
B16 is DOHC 16v, 8vDigiII is 8v SOHC . . . advantage B16
B16 has VTEC, 8vDigiII does not . . . advantage B16
B16 is a performance engineered engine . . . hence the VTEC . . . 8vDigiII is an economy engineered engine
and perhaps the biggest kicker of all . . .
The B16 is 7 years old AT IT'S OLDEST! . . . while the 8vDigiII is 10 Years old at it's newest!
. . . . hold on , in the car in question, it's not even Digi, It's CIS, and the motor in question is 16 years old . . . .
You want B16 killer, save up and get a Motronic2.016v, then you have somewhere to start with.
And im not bashuing VW's or praising Hondas, just stating what's true. You want a race car, buy a race car, or build an engine, but face it, you have an economy car, a damn nice one at that. http://****************.com/smile/emthup.gif
 

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Re: slightly modded dohc civic si vs stock 8v (Big Dac With Fries)

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The B16 is 7 years old AT IT'S OLDEST! . . . while the 8vDigiII is 10 Years old at it's newest!
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Nah, the B16A(1) motor dates back to 1989 which it came in the EF bodied CRX Si-R. So its about 13 years old, however the newer iteration of the b16a(2) that was sold in the US market came in the 94 Del Sol VTEC. There was also a B16A3 (i believe) as well that came in the EK bodied Civic Type-Rs.
 

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Re: slightly modded dohc civic si vs stock 8v (lil8v)

quote:[HR][/HR]i dont understand you people.....arent we all on VWvortex i could see if this was a HONDA forum it isnt so why are u people hating on 8valves so bad when for a fact the same werk that civic has to an 8v would take that si with ease

[Modified by lil8v, 6:25 AM 8-5-2002][HR][/HR]​
that gets my vote for the most ignorant thing I have read on this forum.
 
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