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Can some one clear up the labels stage 1 2 and 3 to me? what does it take to be labeled these stages?
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Re: Stage 1 2 3? (B5S4rings)

Stage 1: ECU upgrade to work with stock everything else (K03 turbo, exhaust, fuel, etc.)
Stage 2: ECU upgrade and cat back exhaust.
Stage 2+: ECU upgrade, cat back exhaust and downpipes.
Stage 3-: K04 turbo upgrade but using K03 based ECU and no additional fuelling (aside from maybe a 5 bar FPR).
Stage 3: K04 turbo upgrade, proper fuelling and Stage 3 ECU upgrade to work with the Stage 3 hardware.
Things like intercoolers, etc. can be added with any of these stages.
 

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Re: Stage 1 2 3? (R32Bum)

Quote, originally posted by R32Bum »
Stage 1: $
Stage 2: $$$$$
Stage 3: $$$$$$$$$$
$$$$
$$$$$$$$$
$$$$

LMAO!

but so true
 

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Re: Stage 1 2 3? (4RCDVR)

stage 1: bubye M3

stage 2: bubye 911

stage 3: bubye ferrari

stage 4: OH **** I RAN OUT OF ROAD AGAIN!!!
 

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Re: Stage 1 2 3? (j-t-cook)

Quote, originally posted by j-t-cook »
stage 1: bubye M3

stage 2: bubye 911

stage 3: bubye ferrari

stage 4: OH **** I RAN OUT OF ROAD AGAIN!!!

lol
I guess you've never driven an E46 M3 or 911. = bu bye S4
I'll give you stage 4 though.
 

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Re: Stage 1 2 3? (Xtremjeepn)

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Stg2 S4s tend to walk away from E46s. Stage 3 cars RUN away from e46s. I have run several and driven several. Great cars.

I will have to test this out.
My friend has an M3, but it has Dinan programming and SMG. I'm still going with M3 though, especially top end.
 

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Re: Stage 1 2 3? (Erlkonig)

An E46 M3 is defenately faster than a Stg.2 S4....I don't kno who thought of this kind of crap?
M3 > 343 Hp (rwd)
S4 stg 2 > max.320 Hp (4wd) .......do the maths.
 

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Re: Stage 1 2 3? (VRSIX-)

It's not just about math it's about the situation. There are large differences from a standing start and a roll. I know my little VW outruns a B7 RS4 until 100. Why would I bother racing any faster then that when I know I'd win. Same thing with the S4 vs M3, if the Audi owner is smart they'd get them at the line and the M3 would never have the time to catch up.
Oh and Stg3- could also be larger injectors/maf on K03 software as well, not just the 5bar FPR.
 

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Re: Stage 1 2 3? (need_a_VR6)

equally, M3's in europe are not the same as M3's in the states.
 

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Re: Stage 1 2 3? (VRSIX-)

Hp is not everything. TORQUE!!!!!!! Torque curve, etc.

You also have to note that the numbers you quoted are PEAK HP, not the HP across the rev range etc. Esay to have a car the peaks higher but has a lower average HP across the entire range.


Modified by Xtremjeepn at 9:54 AM 7-4-2007
 

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Re: Stage 1 2 3? (Xtremjeepn)

Quote, originally posted by Xtremjeepn »
Hp is not everything. TORQUE!!!!!!! Torque curve, etc.

You also have to note that the numbers you quoted are PEAK HP, not the HP across the rev range etc. Esay to have a car the peaks higher but has a lower average HP across the entire range.

Modified by Xtremjeepn at 9:54 AM 7-4-2007

You certainly hit that one right on the money! http://****************.com/smile/emthup.gif
 

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Re: Stage 1 2 3? (Xtremjeepn)

What you want is called "area under the curve" http://****************.com/smile/emthup.gif

btw what does a "stage 3-" S4 put down?


Modified by VTECommie at 10:15 AM 7-5-2007
 

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Re: Stage 1 2 3? (VTECommie)

Maybe 300whp. Probably less.
 

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Re: Stage 1 2 3? (Xtremjeepn)

Damn
 
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