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I’d love not only the heat pump but that double pane glass. I think I am getting some tinnitus in my left ear from this thing. It’s straight up loud on the highway.

Also, first service appointment in a week or so. I was looking at a house and the idiot sellers basically installed a speed bump at the top of their steep driveway, hopped it and came down hard plus somewhat high centered the model 3. It could be my imagination but feels out of balance and somewhat “wobbly” compared to before. Possible alignment or shocks issue?
Probably in your head. I ran over a parking stop and ripped my mudflap off the other day, if you look at the bottom of the car it's really quite beefy.
 

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https://electrek.co/2020/10/22/tesla-increasing-price-full-self-driving-package/

Now $10000 for "Full Self Driving" a beta which is months or even years away from being fully realized. I wish they would just sell a mid-tier package with lane-centering/lane-change because Summon/autopark are dog **** and way too slow/jerky to be used in the actual public.
Autopilot is still standard. That includes "car to steer, accelerate and brake automatically for other vehicles and pedestrians within its lane". What more do you want in the mid-tier package?
 

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https://electrek.co/2020/10/22/tesla-increasing-price-full-self-driving-package/

Now $10000 for "Full Self Driving" a beta which is months or even years away from being fully realized. I wish they would just sell a mid-tier package with lane-centering/lane-change because Summon/autopark are dog **** and way too slow/jerky to be used in the actual public.
It sort of makes sense. They were pretty open that FSD would get more expensive once it was released. Still, I don't see the point of paying $10k for what is ultimately a pretty useless feature. Until I can summon my car from across town or take a nap in the back seat, I don't see much point of autonomy beyond basic adaptive cruise control. If I have to sit in the driver's seat and pay attention to the road, I might as well just drive.
 

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Autopilot is still standard. That includes "car to steer, accelerate and brake automatically for other vehicles and pedestrians within its lane". What more do you want in the mid-tier package?
Right my mistake I thought autosteer wasn't included in standard autopilot. I would like the midtier to include lane change/greenlight drive through/stop sign recognition and forget things like summon and autopark.
 

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It sort of makes sense. They were pretty open that FSD would get more expensive once it was released. Still, I don't see the point of paying $10k for what is ultimately a pretty useless feature. Until I can summon my car from across town or take a nap in the back seat, I don't see much point of autonomy beyond basic adaptive cruise control. If I have to sit in the driver's seat and pay attention to the road, I might as well just drive.
Yeah, Full Self Driving would imply the car doesn't need someone in the driver's seat from start to end of trip. Like the current Waymo taxis in Phoenix. What they are offering today for $10k should rightly be called Autopilot.

 

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Now $10000 for "Full Self Driving" a beta which is months or even years away from being fully realized. I wish they would just sell a mid-tier package with lane-centering/lane-change because Summon/autopark are dog **** and way too slow/jerky to be used in the actual public.
Autopilot is still standard. That includes "car to steer, accelerate and brake automatically for other vehicles and pedestrians within its lane". What more do you want in the mid-tier package?
I bought autopilot when it briefly price-dropped to (I think) $2000 back in March 2019. Actually, I considered it on the price drop, I didn't pull the trigger until they changed their mind and said it was going back up in a few days :laugh:

That's about what it's worth to me. It's a cool novelty. It's very occasionally useful, but I spend very little time in stop and go traffic. I don't trust it at speed. It just makes me anxious.

I do wish it had lane change, though. I didn't realize how basic "basic" was. I've used it on long drives up I-5 in the central valley and if it could change lanes to pass semis it would be nice, but when you have to disengage it every minute or two, and re-engage it, it gets tiring.

It sort of makes sense. They were pretty open that FSD would get more expensive once it was released. Still, I don't see the point of paying $10k for what is ultimately a pretty useless feature. Until I can summon my car from across town or take a nap in the back seat, I don't see much point of autonomy beyond basic adaptive cruise control. If I have to sit in the driver's seat and pay attention to the road, I might as well just drive.
FSD is worth its price several times over *if* the dream is realized (which I am very skeptical of). It's the robo-taxi dream they're selling.
 

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Most people probably didn't know about it anyway.

Tesla stops selling $35,000 Model 3 with new 2021 model year refresh


Tesla has stopped selling the $35,000 version of the Model 3 altogether — which has been somewhat elusive ever since its launch — with the new 2021 model year refresh.

Long before ever delivering a Model 3, CEO Elon Musk promised that it would be the electric car for the masses with a price point starting at $35,000.

While Tesla achieved mass production of the Model 3, that $35,000 price point has remained elusive.

That price point was repeatedly mentioned by Tesla over the years and in 2019, the automaker finally launched the Model 3 Standard Range version for $35,000 — delivering on a promise made long ago and proving the skeptics wrong.

However, the automaker moved away from the product just a few months after launching it.

It stopped listing the $35,000 version of the Model 3 or even producing it, but in order to still be able to say that it is making a $35,000 Model 3 as promised, they would sell a Model 3 Standard Range Plus (now $38,000) and software-locked some features with a $3,000 discount:

“Given the popularity of the Standard Plus relative to the Standard, we have made the decision to simplify our production operations to better optimize cost, minimize complexity and streamline operations. As a result, Model 3 Standard will now be a software-limited version of the Standard Plus, and we are taking it off the online ordering menu, which just means that to get it, customers will need to call us or visit any one of the several hundred Tesla stores.”

That “off-the-menu” $35,000 Model 3 has been available to Tesla buyers for the past year and a half and some owners have indeed gone through that process and bought a Tesla Model 3 for $35,000.

Now Electrek has learned that Tesla has decided not to do it anymore for new Model 3 vehicles — at least at this time.

Sources familiar with the matter told Electrek that Tesla informed its staff that they weren’t allowed to “downgrade” new 2021 Model 3 vehicles to “Standard Range” and sell them for $35,000.

They are still allowed to software-limit features on 2020 Model 3 Standard Range Plus vehicles that are still in inventory and sell those to customers as Model 3 Standard Range for $35,000, but not the new 2021 Model 3, which comes with new features.

Electrek’s Take

This “off-the-menu” thing has always been weird to me.

Obviously, Tesla doesn’t want to sell that version of the vehicle, otherwise, it would be listed as an option on its configurator like any other version.

Why though? I can’t say for sure, but to me, it looked like they just wanted to make the point that they actually sold a $35,000 Model 3 as promised.

Now they are walking away from that too?

However, they could change this in the future.

It could be that demand is high right now for the 2021 Model 3 and Tesla doesn’t want to sell them for a lower gross margin as the software-limited Standard Range until they hit lower demand for it.

For what it’s worth, I could see them allowing downgrades again on new Model 3s at some point next year.

Normally, we would have asked Tesla about the situation to get some clarity, but as we previously reported, they don’t have a press relations department anymore.
LOL at the last line.
 

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I think if and when they have a $35k or cheaper car, it's going to be something other than a Model 3. Maybe they'll go after BMW and call it a Model 2.
 
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