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can somebody help me on my 1994 celica gt? i'm having problem finding it's rank, i know it's in g-stock but is that it? all i have on it is exhaust and 18x7.5 rims(i don't know if that makes a difference in my ranking), otherwise everything is stock.
 

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Re: (turbosprentice)

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can somebody help me on my 1994 celica gt? i'm having problem finding it's rank, i know it's in g-stock but is that it? all i have on it is exhaust and 18x7.5 rims(i don't know if that makes a difference in my ranking), otherwise everything is stock.

If the exhaust is cat back you are fine; however, the 18" wheels were not available from the factory.
 

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what stops someone from being dishonest about mods, for instance if the car has cams and they dont really effect idle, how do they know you have cams?
 

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there is no way to know if someone is honest about mods or not exept that anouther competitor can protest a part or potetially illegal mod and unless you can prove that the mods in question are legal for your class you will loose your trophy and have to pay far the dissasymly/reassymbly of your car.
as far as most local events they are just for fun and a simple protest to something obvious may mean that you have to run a class or two high than you thoght, but most small or insignificant mods will be overlooked unless you turn out to be a national level driver in wich case they might protest anyways to move you out of ther class.


Modified by meangreen18T at 10:42 AM 4-16-2007
 

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Re: The Autocross Information Thread (Mhyrr)

edit: nm... looks like the MKV is G-S and DSP (mod dependant)

JJ


Modified by CDN_MKV at 3:51 AM 5-13-2007
 

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I was thinking of eventually swapping a 16v head onto my 2.0l 8v engine and was wondering what class that would put me in (just assume stock otherwise, I'm only curious about the particular mod)
 

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Re: (XclerksX)

your probably looking at SM...

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I was thinking of eventually swapping a 16v head onto my 2.0l 8v engine and was wondering what class that would put me in (just assume stock otherwise, I'm only curious about the particular mod)
 

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Re: The Autocross Information Thread (Mhyrr)

I have a question about my car. I have a 4 door 1983 VW rabbit. I have upgraded it with parts from my wrecked 83 gti. I converted it to a manual tranny and put in the stock gti engine/tranny. I put the front and rear sway bars on it. It also has the gti front seats, steering wheel and vented front rotors that the gti was originaly equiped with. Also the front air dam off the gti. I am wondering how it would work with the solo2 rules. Could it be considered stock? Or because it has engine/tranny and sway bars that it did not come with, would it be in a higher class? I understand the rest of the modification restrictions, just not quite sure about the gti stuff I added. Like if I say that the gti stuff I added is considered stock, then with the stress bars, urethane engine and suspension bushings I added would put me in the Street Touring (STS) class. I hope somone can help me out, I just want to know how this would all work out. Thank you.
 

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Re: The Autocross Information Thread (VDubForLife)

in order to be stock you need to have "all" of the optinons/configurations that the gti came frome the factory with. So if the gti only came in 2door and you have a 4 door your car could never be considered a stock gti. If your car was completly upgraded to factory gti statusyou caould be sonsidered stock then add/subtract to get into st_ calsses.
However, I belive your car would probably be in SM as is.
 

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Re: The Autocross Information Thread (meangreen18T)

Thank you for clarifying that for me. Thats kind of how I figured it would work out. I just not that familar with the rules on modifications. Thanks again.
 

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Re: The Autocross Information Thread (meangreen18T)

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in order to be stock you need to have "all" of the optinons/configurations that the gti came frome the factory with. So if the gti only came in 2door and you have a 4 door your car could never be considered a stock gti. If your car was completly upgraded to factory gti statusyou caould be sonsidered stock then add/subtract to get into st_ calsses.
However, I belive your car would probably be in SM as is.

I believe all those mods fall under the update/backdate rules for Street Prepared (maybe ST has the same rule, IDK). The car would be legal for FSP.
 

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Re: The Autocross Information Thread (Mhyrr)

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Changes in stock boost level, for example, are illegal in Stock, Street Touring, and Street Prepared. It would be an impossible task to set boost level maximums and actually be able to control or check levels at an event. The alternative is either allowing unlimited boost (which is what Street Modified does) or allowing no boost changes (SP and lower).

...so ok - I have a GIAC 93 Octane program on my 1.8T. If I get the Flashloader that restores the car's PCM to its stock maps, will I be able to run stock class?? the boost levels would be back to normal, also.
 

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Re: The Autocross Information Thread (fast, Jr.)

by the book you have to have the stock programming to run stock class, however it is unlikely that anyone will care if you run GIAC's flashloader interpretation of the "stock" calibration. Your going to get beat by the Mini Cooper S anyways. If i were you I would run the flashloader stock program and just not tell anybody that you are or were ever chipped.
 

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One note I would like to add.
The first class that allows you to change your steering wheel if your car came equipped with an airbag is street prepared.
If your car came equipped with an air bag you can not put an after market in and run in street touring.
 

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Hopefully this will be an easier question than some of the others.
I used to race my 94 Jetta in the FSP classification but my 07 Rabbit is listed in H class stock. Right now it is stock, and I can't find the Rabbit listed anywhere else in the classivication pages.
I would assume that in a couple months, after my upgrades I would fall back into the FSP, even though the Rabbit is not an F class stock car? There is no HSP classification, and don't want to look like a complete fool walking out there and not knowing where to race.
I am also tempted to go ahead and start competing in the FSP class to get prepared for when I will actully become competitive.
Thanks for any help, this thread has been very helpfull so far.
 

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Re: (Rodger Rabbit)

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Hopefully this will be an easier question than some of the others.
I used to race my 94 Jetta in the FSP classification but my 07 Rabbit is listed in H class stock. Right now it is stock, and I can't find the Rabbit listed anywhere else in the classivication pages.
I would assume that in a couple months, after my upgrades I would fall back into the FSP, even though the Rabbit is not an F class stock car? There is no HSP classification, and don't want to look like a complete fool walking out there and not knowing where to race.
I am also tempted to go ahead and start competing in the FSP class to get prepared for when I will actully become competitive.
Thanks for any help, this thread has been very helpfull so far.

It depends on what you plan to do to the car. You may be able to just run STS. And yes, you would probably be in FSP.
 

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Re: The Autocross Information Thread (fast, Jr.)

Bold classes are classes that are applicable to VW.
Audi folks already know where they belong.
Levels of prep:
Stock -=> Street Touring -=> Street Prepared -=> Prepared -=> Modified
Stock: SS AS BS CS DS ES FS GS HS
Touring: STS, STX, STU
Street Prepared: ASP BSP CSP DSP ESP FSP
Prepared: AP BP CP DP EP FP

Clarification: You do not add a "Street Prepared" to your stock class if you want to move up to a Street Prepared class.
An HStock car cannot go to "H Street Prepared" since there is not such thing.
It is your responsibility to find and properly class your car.

DS: 1K R32, 1J R32
Other DS: Integra Type R, Subaru WRX
GS: 1K GLI, 1K GTI, 1K Jetta 2.0T, 1J Jetta 1.8T, Wagon 1.8T, Corrado VR6, Corrado G60, Scirocco 16V, Golf/GTI/Jetta 16V, 1J VR6 Jetta/Golf/GTI, , Passat V6, any 1.8T not otherwise classified.
Other GS: 2007 Mini Cooper S, Focus SVT, Celica GT-S
HS: 1K Jetta 2.5, 1K Rabbit 2.5, Jetta III 2.0, GTI 2.0, Golf 2.0, 8V Scirocco, Beetle 2.0, Beetle 2.5, Fox, 8V Golf, 8V Rabbit, Ghia, Dasher, Quantum, Jetta TDI, Passat TDI, Golf TDI, Beetle TDI
Other HS: Mazda 3, Mini Cooper, B14 Sentra SE-R, Integra
DSP: 1K 2.0T, 1K 2.5L, 1J 1.8T, Corrado, 16V Scirocco, 1J VR6, MKIII VR6, R32, Turbo Beetle
Other DSP: BMW 325, AE86 Corolla
FSP: Beetle, Fox, 8V Golf & Jetta, 8V Golf Jetta Rabbit Pickup Scirocco, Ghia, TDI, 85-92 Cabriolet, Dasher, Quantum, 85-92 Golf Jetta Cabrio
Popular FSP: Scirocco
SM: All Models Eligible
Popular SM: BMW M3
SM2: All Models Eligible
Popular SM2: Corvette
XP: All Models Eligible
EP:MK1 Rabbits, MK1 Jettas, Scirocco
(Thank you Trevor Beck [TBeck])
Popular EP: Rabbit
Examples:
2006 GLI with coilovers and LSD
Can run in STX on street tires, OR DSP on R-Compounds + ability to update backdate.
2006 Rabbit 2.5 with coilovers
Can run in STS, OR DSP with R-Compounds + ability to update backdate.
1995 Jetta 2.0L with shocks and springs
Must run in STS as the Springs bump it out of HStock
2000 Golf 2.0 with Neuspeed Supercharger
SM, SM2 or XP
1984 Jetta with a Peloquin and 2.0 Swap and Full Race Slicks (no DOT approval)
EP or XP
1995 GTI with a Honda K20 engine swap
XP


Modified by OGSN0 at 3:26 PM 12-11-2007
 
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