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Please correct me if I am wrong. I will edit this as we go. They are classified by size sorted in an ascending order. All brakes pertain to the MK4 Platform (Golf 4/Jetta (Bora) 4/New Beetle) includes GLi/GTI 337/20th Anniversary Edition/25th Anniversary Edition/R32)

Some good reading: Why BIGGER brakes are NOT always best! Many road racers are using 12.3" rotors with improved brake pads.

MkIV brake combos for production vehicles (including most European models):
VW R32 | Audi TT 3.2 | VW New Beetle RSi


  • The Front brakes are 334mm x 32mm (13.15" x 1.26") Vented 2-piece Rotors w/2 piston Blue calipers
  • The Rear brakes are 256mm x 22mm (10.1" x .87") Vented Rotors

Audi TT-AWD (225hp) | VW GTI 20AE | VW GTI 337 | VW GTI 25AE | VW Golf 4-Motion | VW Jetta/Bora GLI | VW Bora 4-Motion | VW New Beetle VR5



  • Note: 20AE/337/GLI calipers are the same as 11.3" calipers, but are painted red.
  • The Front brakes are 312mm x 25mm (12.3" x .98") Vented Rotors w/1 piston calipers
  • The Rear brakes are 256mm x 22mm (10.1" x .87") Vented Rotors

TT-FWD (180hp) 12.3" front, 9.1" rear



  • The Front brakes are 312mm x 25mm (12.3" x .98") Vented Rotors w/1 piston calipers
  • The Rear brakes are 232mm x 9mm (9.1" x .35") Solid Rotor

TT-AWD (180hp) 12.3" front, 9.4" rear



  • The Front brakes are 312mm x 25mm (12.3" x .98") Vented Rotors w/1 piston calipers
  • The Rear brakes are 232mm x 9mm (9.1" x .35") Solid Rotor

VR6 | 1.8T



  • The Front brakes are 288mm x 25mm (11.3" x .98") Vented Rotor w/1 piston calipers
  • The Rear brakes are 232mm x 9mm (9.1" x .35") Solid Rotor

1.6l | 2.0l | TDI



  • The Front brakes are 280mm x 22mm (11.0" x .87") Vented Rotor w/1 piston calipers
  • The Rear brakes are 232mm x 9mm (9.1" x .35") Solid Rotor
  • Note: To upgrade to most aftermarket brakes you need to change the hub carriers (spindles) to 1.8T or VR6 specifications.

1.4l



  • The Front brakes are 256mm x 22mm (10.1" x .87") Vented Rotor w/1 piston calipers
  • The Rear brakes are 232mm x 9mm (9.1" x .35") Solid Rotor

Pads


  • Mintex Red Box - OEM+ performance with less dust
  • Pagid Sport - OEM+ Performance with less dust
  • Hawk HPS - OEM+ performance with less dust
  • Ferodo DS2500 - Aggressive street and weekend track pad (known to be dusty)
  • Pagid RS4-2-1 (Dark Blue) - Aggressive street and weekend track pad
  • Pagid RS4-2 (blue) - Aggressive street and weekend track pad
  • Porterfield R4S - Aggressive street and weekend track pad
  • Mintex C-tech 1144 (blue box) - Aggressive street and weekend track pad
  • Hawk HP Plus - Aggressive street and weekend track pad (known to be dusty)
  • Ferodo Premier - Aggressive street and weekend track pad (known to be dusty)
  • EBC Green Stuff - Aggressive street and weekend track pad
  • EBC Red Stuff - Designed to be used on the track only
  • Hawk Blue 9012 - Designed to be used on the track only

Opinions about Brake Pads found here: Opinion 1


FRONT BRAKE UPGRADES

Low budget Upgrades (replacement with same size)
Cross Drilled Rotors


  • Zimmermann - New Dimensions | Parts 4 VWs | Evoms |
  • Brembo - RPI Equipped | Tire Rack
  • Unknown Brand or Mixed brands - Performance Cafe
  • 12.3" ECS 2 piece OE Replica - ECS Tuning

Slotted Rotors


  • ATE PowerDisc Rotors - Atom Gas Slotting - New Dimensions | Parts 4 VWs | ECS Tuning | Evolution Sports
  • Unknown Brand or Mixed brands - Radial - Parts 4 VWs | ECS Tuning | Tire Rack
  • 12.3" ECS 2 piece OE Replica - ECS Tuning
  • 13.1" ECS 2 piece OE Replica (for R32 | TT3.2) - ECS Tuning

Cross Drilled and Slotted Rotors


  • Brembo - RPI Equipped, Tire Rack
  • EBC - Tire Rack
  • Unknown Brand or Mixed brands - Parts 4 VWs | Autotech | ECS Tuning | Eurospec | Rapid Parts
  • 12.3" ECS 2 piece OE Replica - ECS Tuning
  • 13.1" ECS 2 piece OE Replica (for R32 | TT3.2) - ECS Tuning

Brake Caliper Improvement


  • Tyrolsport's Brake Caliper Stiffening Kit $79
  • TyrolSport’s revolutionary new Brake Caliper Stiffening bushings prevent the caliper flex inherent in the stock rubber-bushed design. This flex leads to uneven pad wear and rotor deposits under hard usage. An inexpensive upgrade to the stock that should be part of your next brake job.
  • Purchase from:Tyrolsport

11" (280mm) Front Brake Upgrades
RPI Equipped wilwood 11" (280mm) Race Front Brake Upgrade $795+
Comes with:Wilwood Dynalite2 Forged Billet DynaPro 4 Piston Calipers and 11" drilled and plated rotors.
Requires:15" wheels and Installation
Purchase from: RPI Equipped

12.19" (310mm) Front Brake Upgrades
RPI Equipped wilwood 12.19" (310mm) Front Brake Upgrade $1035+
Comes with:Wilwood Forged Billet DynaPro 4 Piston Calipers and 12.19" drilled and plated rotors.
Requires:16" wheels and Installation
Purchase from: RPI Equipped

12.3" (312mm x 25mm) Front Brake Upgrades
OEM 12.3" (312mm x 25mm) Front Brake Upgrades w/OEM 11.3" Calipers $350+
Comes with: Caliper Carriers, vented Rotors, Pads (uses 11.3" calipers)
Requires: 16"+ wheels and Installation
Purchase from:New Dimensions | Parts 4 VWs | Autotech | Performance Cafe | ECS Tuning | Evoms

ECS Tuning 12.3" (312mm x 25mm) 2 piece vented rotors w/OEM 11.3" Calipers $680
Comes with: Caliper Carriers and 2 piece vented Rotors
Requires: 16"+ wheels and Installation
Purchase from: ECS Tuning

Porsche Boxster Calipers, Caliper Adapters and 12.3" (312mm x 25mm) Vented Rotors from $1095+
Comes with: 1 piece vented Rotors, 4 piston Porsche Boxster Calipers, Caliper Adapters, Porsche fasteners, Pads, SS Lines, ATE Super Blue fluid
Requires: 16"+ wheels and Installation
Purchase from: ECS Tuning | H2Sport

Neuspeed Economy 12.3" (312mm x 25mm) Front Brake Upgrade $600+
Comes with: vented Rotors, Caliper Adapters, SS Braided lines and Pagid Pads
Requires: 4 piston Porsche Boxster Calipers, 17" wheels and Installation
Purchase from: Neuspeed

12.6" (322mm) Front Brake Upgrades
ECS Tuning Stage 3 (ver. 1) $1850+
Comes with: Porsche 993 Twin Turbo vented Rotor Rings 322mm x 32mm, Porsche 993 Twin Turbo Calipers, ECS Rotor hats, Caliper Adapters, Porsche fasteners, Pads, SS Lines, ATE Super Blue fluid
Requires: 17"+ wheels, modifications to the spindle and Installation
Purchase from: ECS Tuning

RPI Equipped Big Red 12.6" (322mm x 32mm) Front Brake Upgrade $2195+
Comes with:Goodridge stainless lines, nickel plated CNC machined hats and brackets to adapt the included Porsche 993 (Twin-Turbo model) Big Red Calipers and rotors.
Requires:17" wheels and Installation
Purchase from: RPI Equipped

RPI Equipped Big Red Hardware kit 12.6" (322mm x 32mm) Front Brake Upgrade $295+
Comes with:Goodridge stainless lines, nickel plated CNC machined hats and brackets to adapt Porsche 993 (Twin-Turbo model) Big Red Calipers and rotors.
Requires:Porsche 993 (Twin-Turbo model) Big Red Cailpers and rotors, 17" wheels and Installation
Purchase from: RPI Equipped

12.7" (323mm) Front Brake Upgrades
Brembo 12.7" Front Brake Upgrade - Gran Turismo Brake System $1495 (part #1A4.6002A)
Comes with: 1 piece 323mm x 28mm drilled rotors, 4 piston calipers, adapters and pads
Requires: 17"+ wheels and Installation
Purchase from: Brembo | Evoms | New Dimensions

12.9" (328mm) Front Brake Upgrades
Stoptech 12.9" Brake Upgrade $1895+
Comes with: 2 piece 328mm x 28mm slotted or drilled rotors, 4 piston ST40 calipers, adapters, Stainless steel brake lines, AXXIS Ultimate brake pads, red or black calipers
Requires: 17"+ wheels and Installation
Purchase from: Stoptech | Neuspeed | Evolution Sports | Matrix Engineering | New Dimensions

Brembo 12.9" Front Brake Upgrade - Gran Turismo Brake System $2595 (part #1A1.6011A)
Comes with: 2 piece 328mm x 28mm slotted or drilled rotors, 4 piston calipers, adapters and pads
Requires: 17"+ wheels and Installation
Purchase from: Brembo | Evoms | New Dimensions

Stasis/Alcon 12.9" Front Brake Upgrade
Comes with: 2 piece 328mm x 28mm slotted or drilled rotors, 4 piston calipers, adapters and pads
Requires: 17"+ wheels and Installation
Purchase from: Stasis Engineering | APR

13.0" (330mm) Front Brake Upgrades
Wilwood Race Kit $1395+
Comes with: 2 piece vented Rotors, 4 piston calipers, adapters, SS lines and pads
Requires: 17"+ wheels and Installation
Purchase from: Wilwood| RPI Equipped

AP Racing $2595+
Comes with: 2 piece vented rotors, 4 piston calipers, adapters, pads and SS lines
Requires: 17"+ wheels and Installation
Purchase from: AP Racing | Matrix Engineering | Eurospec

RPI Equipped Special 13" Race Brake Kit (330mm x 32mm) $1195+
Comes with:Wilwood 4-piston caliper, 13x1.25" diameter two-piece (lightweight) rotors, Wilwood 'fast-road' compound pad.
Requires:17" wheels and Installation
Purchase from: RPI Equipped

Rotora 13" Big Brake Kit (330mm x 30mm) $2095+
Comes with:4-Piston Caliper (Metallic Blue),2-Piece System 330x30mm Oversize Slotted/Drilled Discs,Rotora H2-Ceramic Race Pads,Rotora Stainless Steel Brake Lines,Carbon Steel (SC45) Mounting Bracket.
Requires:Unknown minimum wheel size and Installation
Purchase from: Rotora

13.1" (332mm) Front Brake Upgrades
ECS Tuning Stage 1 $579+
Comes with: 2 piece vented Rotors, Caliper Adapters (uses stock 11.3" calipers)
Requires: 17"+ wheels and Installation
Purchase from: ECS Tuning

ECS Tuning Stage 2 version 2 $1495+
Comes with: 2 piece vented with plain, drilled or slotted Rotors, Caliper Adapters, 4 piston Porsche Calipers, SS brake lines,
Requires: 17"+ wheels and Installation
Purchase from: ECS Tuning

STaSIS Track Sport Front $2695+
Comes with: 2 Alcon Monoblock 4-piston calipers, 2 Brembo Floating Rotors, 332mm x 32mm, directionally vented, gas slotted, 2 STaSIS Rotor mounting hats, 2 STaSIS Caliper mounting brackets, SBS Pro-Touring high performance brake pads, Goodridge braided stainless steel brake lines (front only), Motul 5.1 high performance brake fluid
Requires: 17"+ wheels and Installation
Purchase from: STaSIS Engineering | Matrix Engineering | Tyrolsport

13.15" (334mm x 32mm) OEM Front Brake Upgrades
VW R32/Audi TT3.2 Brake upgrade $925+
Comes with: 2 piece directional vaned Rotors,2 piston Calipers, pads and brake lines
Requires: 18"+ wheels and Installation (some 17" wheels will clear)
Purchase from: Autotech | Parts 4 VWs | Local Dealership Parts Counter

Porsche Cayenne 6 piston calipers, caliper carriers, 334mm x 32mm (13.15") R32/TT3.2 directional vaned rotors, stainless brake lines, pads and brake fluid
Comes with: 2 piece vented Rotors,2 piston Calipers, pads and brake lines
Requires: 17"+ wheels and Installation
Purchase from: H2Sport

14.0" (355mm) Front Brake Upgrades
AP Racing 14.0" (356mm) Front Brake Upgrade $2999+
Comes with: 2 vented piece rotors, 4 piston calipers, adapters, pads and SS lines
Requires: 18"+ wheels and Installation
Purchase from: AP Racing | Evoms | Eurospec

ECS Tuning Stage 4 version 2 14.0" (355mm x 35mm) $1795+
Comes with: 2 piece vented with plain, drilled or slotted Rotors, Caliper Adapters, 4 piston Porsche Calipers, SS brake lines
Requires: 18"+ wheels and Installation
Purchase from: ECS Tuning

STaSIS Track Sport Front 14.0" (355mm x 32mm) $2995+
Comes with: 2 Alcon Monoblock 4-piston calipers, 2 Brembo Floating Rotors, 355mm x 32mm, directionally vented, gas slotted, 2 STaSIS Rotor mounting hats, 2 STaSIS Caliper mounting brackets, SBS Pro-Touring high performance brake pads, Goodridge braided stainless steel brake lines (front only), Motul 5.1 high performance brake fluid
Requires: 18"+ wheels and Installation
Purchase from: STaSIS Engineering | Matrix Engineering | Tyrolsport

14.1" (358mm) Front Brake Upgrades
ECS Tuning Stage 5 14.1" (358mm x 32mm) $2250+
Comes with:6 piston Porsche Cayenne calipers, custom 358x32mm directional vaned rotor rings, lightweight 7075 aluminum rotor hats and caliper brackets
Requires: 18"+ wheels and Installation
Purchase from: ECS Tuning
REAR BRAKE UPGRADES


10.1" (256mm) Rear OEM Brake Upgrades
10.1" (256mm) Rear OEM Brake $795+
Comes with: Vented rotors, calipers, caliper carriers and pads
Requires: 16"+ wheels and Installation
Purchase from: Autotech | Performance Cafe | RPI Equipped | ECS Tuning​
11.0" (280mm) Rear Brake Upgrades
11.0" (280mm) Rear Brake $295+
Comes with: Slotted and/or drilled Solid rotors and caliper carriers
Requires: 16"+ wheels and Installation
Purchase from: Performance Cafe | Evolution Motorsports | Eurospec Sport​
12" (305mm) Rear Brake Upgrades
12" (305mm) AP Racing Rear Big Brake Kit $1249+
Comes with: Vented Rotors, Calipers, Caliper Adapters, Pads, SS Lines
Requires: Installation & Looks like larger wheels
Purchase from: Evolution Motorsports | Matrix Engineering | Eurospec

STaSIS Track Sport Rear (In development) $----
Comes with: 2 STaSIS Rotors vented & gas slotted, 2 STaSIS Rotor mounting hats, 2 STaSIS Caliper mounting brackets, Porterfield R4S high performance brake pads, Goodridge braided stainless steel brake lines (rear only), Motul 5.1 high performance brake fluid
Requires: ?" wheels and Installation
Purchase from: STaSIS Engineering | Matrix Engineering | Tyrolsport​
12.1" (308mm) Rear Brake Upgrades w/OEM Calipers
ECS Tuning Stage 1R (Rear) Big Brake Kit $439+
Comes with: 2 piece solid Rotors and Caliper Adapters
Requires: 16"+ wheels and Installation
Purchase from: ECS Tuning

ECS Tuning Stage 1R v2 (Rear) Big Brake Kit $995+
Comes with: 12.1" 2 piece vented Rotors, OEM 337/20AE rear Caliper and carrier
Requires: 16"+ wheels and Installation
Purchase from: ECS Tuning
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Re: A List of most Brake Upgrade Kits for MK4 Platform (eggroller)

Don't forget about Wilwood. Not sure about sizes and prices.
Has anyone checked into the feasability of other OEM parts, such as Passat, A6, or A8 brakes? I realize they'd be 112 mm bolt pattern.
 

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Re: A List of most Brake Upgrade Kits for MK4 Platform (eggroller)

Nice list http://****************.com/smile/emthup.gif
Sticky Material !
 

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Re: A List of most Brake Upgrade Kits for MK4 Platform (Gjetta12)

What about rear upgrades?
Autotech, PerCafe and ECS all offer an upgrade (mostly OEM parts) to 10.1 vented rears (a la 337/R32).
ECS has a 12.1 non-vented rear upgrade.
AP has a rear upgrade that uses their calipers and the stock calipers are retained for the e-brake.
 

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Re: A List of most Brake Upgrade Kits for MK4 Platform (eggroller)

So is this a list of "just" front brakes? There are a few rear kits on the market also.
Will you be discussing those in this thread, or should we start another?
 

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Re: A List of most Brake Upgrade Kits for MK4 Platform (eggroller)

Awesome summary! This is desperately needed and will help answer a lot of questions without multiple posting.
Now for the shameless plug...
I can help 2.0L and TDI owners get an econimincal start toward building the foundation for future brake upgrades with a 1.8t / VR6 OE front brake set-up that I am selling.
FOR SALE: 1.8t / VR6 OE front brake set-up for MK4 VW
Includes:
1.8t / VR6 front calipers and carriers, front discs (11.3 inch) and brake lines. All parts have about 10k miles. The pics show some rust on the rotors, but that is lite surface rust and will easily come off when driven-on (to the end of the driveway) or if you have the rotors turned before installing
What you need to complete the conversion:
The only parts still needed to complete the swap are the wheel hubs/spindles from a 1.8t or VR6 and some new brake pads. You can get a new ECS 2.0 Spindle Conversion Kit or you can monitor Vortex and some will turn up sooner or later (Just get the seller to swear they are straigt and not off a car that had been in a wreck). For the brake pads, I really recommend you get new ones for saftey reasons, performance value and they're cheap.
$175 for everything. I will take Paypal or maybe a Money Order. I will pay for shipping since my girlfriend works for FedEx. I will not seperate unless I can't sell them and get desperate.
Please either IM me on Vortex or email me at [email protected]
Thanks.



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VALUABLE INFO! http://****************.com/smile/emthup.gif
 

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this is great but....if i want to do a brake upgrade from a mk3 vr6 to the 12.3 using all factory parts. what part do i need? and from what car?
just the carrier, caliper, rotor and brake line? or do i have to switch the hub and spindle as well
 

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Re: A List of most Brake Upgrade Kits for MK4 Platform (Dubtek Tuning)

Added ECS Tuning Stage 2 Version 2 Front Brakes $1495+
ECS cadmium coated rotor rings (available slotted, crossdrilled-slotted, plain)
7075 Aluminium Rotor Hat - hard annodized black
7075 Aluminium carrier bracket - hard annodized black
HAWK Performance HPS or HP-plus pads
Porsche OEM Hardend steel caliper bolts
Porsche OEM Pad Dampners
Porsche OEM Pad wear sensors
Cadmium coated rotor hardware
New rotor/hub screws
Porsche Boxster Caliper (availabe in red,silver,black,yellow)
ECS DOT Approved Stainless Lines - Vinyl coated
Caliper banjo bolts with new crush washers
Complete printed instructions with photos
I don't work for ECS Tuning! Just keeping my list in my signature current.
 

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which one of these ugrades is considered the "TT" front brake upgrade?... I purchased a car and that's what I was told the front brakes had been upgraded to...and what are the smallest wheels I can use over them?...I have 17" Monte's but I want smaller wheels because of the crappy roads in NY and because I think they will work better if/when I get to some track events
 

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Quote, originally posted by kevinmw »
which one of these ugrades is considered the "TT" front brake upgrade?

12.3" (312mm) OEM Front Brake Upgrades w/OEM Calipers
12.3" (312mm) OEM Front Brake Upgrades $350+
Comes with: Caliper Carriers, vented Rotors, Pads
Requires: 16"+ wheels and Installation
 

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Could you also list the stock replacement upgrades for those of us on a limited budget? For example what croos-drilled, slotted, slotted and cross-drilled 11.3" rotors are there? What are stock size pad upgrades?
Great listing, although it makes me wish i traded up to that 337 that was sitting at the dealership all winter...
 
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