wont work on our car. we dont have a Gen 3. We have a Gen 3 B as i understand it.

 

Actually it should work on our engine.

 

Who wants to be the test dummy? I'm assuming it's similar to Burger's?

 

honestly i trust Neuspeed...if we want to have a gofundme so i can be the test car for everyone, i am game :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
but i like the power and torque gains achieved with this simple "piggy back" system. makes me curious to see what an actual tune will do to our system and makes me believe even more that this is all a simple cam profile controlled by the ECU.

 

I have had this installed for almost 2 weeks now and am pleased with the modest but noticeable performance increase. It holds boost much longer most noticeably, wish it fixed the sloppy transmission when letting off the gas but it does not have that capability. I know that transmission tuning may come with a custom tune once available but I am leasing so do not want to go that route and risk warranty/lease issues. The Tig so needs a Custom tune for it to be not only right but reach some decent performance potential for what it is.

Row1Rich had the module a few weeks before me and his comments that he had installed prompted me to order the same day.

I will note the module harness was NOT designed for our Tig's(see below) and I let Neuspeed know this was my only complaint, I sent them an email and received a reply:

Hello,

I finally had the time to install your power control module on my 2018 Tiguan. I have found the cable running from module to the boost sensor is approximately a foot too short causing the module to not have a good mounting surface within reach that IS NOT part of the engine. At the moment it reaches as far as the top of battery towards the ECU as shown in the pic.

Also, not sure if this is due to technical limitations, but why there is not a quick release pigtail most of the way down boost sensor cable in the event the owner wanted to remove the module in a moments notice instead of having to spend 15 minutes under the vehicle removing the belly pan to reach plug.

I have owned several custom tuned(handheld) flash turbo cars and I am happy with the performance increase just the install leaves me wanting a more vehicle specific module as noted above.

Their Reply:

Thank you for your email.

When the Module first came out a few years ago the batteries were the smaller ones so the side of the ECU was exposed, then later models used the longer batteries so the Module fit great down in the battery tray. Now with Audi/VW using the same engine in the larger vehicles (Tiguan,Atlas, Q7) we need to re-evaluate the harness lengths.

We do not use a quick release pigtail for one to keep cost down and if going to the Audi/VW dealership for warranty work or service every thing needs to be original.

Regards,

NEUSPEED Team

 

Is it $399 worth of performance gain?

 

Also guys don't forget that you can get a used one for real cheap. I'm looking for one locally.

 

$399 for 30 hp is incredible. I just don’t know if I believe it. Will wait for more evidence.

 

Wait, what? Dude that's pretty normal. Most flash tunes from major tuners are around 500-600 and will offer about the same for our vehicles. For the money it's absolutely believable.

 

Unitronic is working on these new Bosch ECUs as we speak. I too will be waiting for them to release something flashable.

 

Saying you bought a used one. Assuming you would need to have the module flashed to recognize the new ECU? Is that similar to a Cobb tuner or do you have to take it to a dealer to update?

 

That's a good question, and now I'm curious. With the Cobb, you have to marry/unmarry the unit to your ECU, and if it's not unmarried when it's sold, it's a brick that costs some serious cash for Cobb to unlock. But the Cobb is a read/writer that you download tunes (or get a pro to write one) through, while this Neuspeed Module is just a piggy back unit that feeds live data into the ECU, so my guess is that it doesn't need to be married to the ECU, so buying a used one should be safe.

 

Yeah think of it as basically just adding in a bunch of resistors to trick the ECU into putting out more power.

 

The Neuspeed module is not ECU "married", it is a generic canned module that can be used from vehicle to vehicle without licensing issues. They advertise the unit does compensate for the varied fuel octane levels being used when the proper octane selection is made on the unit.

I have owned handhelds and have had custom tunes built based on data logging that have always yielded the very best results possible and I will always chose custom over canned when I am not concerned with possible warranty work. Lets face it, unless your wallet is bottomless or your dealer is awesome at looking the other way, this is always a concern until the warranty runs out.

This module is plug and play, can be removed before service work and provides a modest performance boost for less than most handheld units and much less than a custom tune. The HP/TQ increases I do not believe are based on Tig dyno numbers but based up on previous results they have probably ran across the dyno with this motor in other platforms so probably pretty accurate.

It is what it is I guess and I am overall pleased with my $399 spent despite the issue with incorrect harness length.

 

I've had mine installed for 4 weeks, well worth it. This will do until someone cracks the ECU and a real tune becomes available.

Didn't have an issue with the harness length myself.

 

I'm about to do a thing...

 

I know they are made for multiple model and brand years but dang!!! nice used find, if half price then beyond worth the money while waiting for a full tune

 

# 2 is the MAP sensor.
#1 is the MAF sensor.

 

Not relevant to this application.

For MQB Tiguan, use the directions for S3/Golf R

 

does it require 91 octane

 

Yes

 

In for updates might jump on this or wait a bit longer

 

Have a module on the way. Will post my thoughts once it's installed.

 

Subscribed. My first tune was a neuspeed chip soldered to my 2002 GTI 337 ecu. I like this much less invasive alternative.

I saw ECS has them for $380. And +30hp for <$400 is a bargain!

Has anyone had an issue with smoothness of power delivery?

 

Waiting to see what Burger Motorsports does with the JB1 for this car/engine.

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Just ordered my power module. Hope it will give it just enough boost to make this thing bearable.

 

would love to see a write up when you get it installed and your thoughts on it.

what trim do you have? 4motion?

 

I reached out to George at Burger Motorsports today. They offer a similar product for the Gen 3 versions of the 2.0T. My vw friends back East have had a lot of success with it.

Hoping they are planning a similar product for our engines. I think it will be tuned more appropriately for the EA888 Gen 3B if they release it. It is also non-invasive and can be disconnected when desired.

I'll keep you guys posted.

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Hoping to pick one up in the next few days. Everyone still loving it?

 

Yes, it's only let down by the Tiguan's crazy transmission programming. I'd go back to stock engine performance for remapped transmission programming. But, I don't drive it anymore anyway, my wife loves it.

 

Just picked a used one of these guys up too. Have yet to install, since I wanted to drain the 87 and filler-up with 91 prior to install.

Will address my experience installing harness/mounting, as well as a performance review.

 

Blah. Between the transmission and the small turbo I feel like there's no hope for the US spec Tig. Hoping one of the tuners can change my mind.

Likewise, my wife now drives it full time and loves it. I went back to driving my '12 gli which feels like a rocket after driving the Tig.

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Yup, I'll be dumping the Neuspeed module as soon as there's software for the Tiguan from a reputable tuner.

 

VW's problem not mine!

Just read this thread and a few others. I am 72 years old and looking for a smaller vehicle than my Sienna or the Atlas but why oh why do they (VW) think small means slow and crappy much like my ole carcuss. At any rate it seems that VW goes above and beyond to code their ECU's so that they cannot be played with. Do you think they know that it is costing them sales. I want the Tiguan but think I am going to be stuck with the new Mazda CX-5 with the new 2.5 turbo. 250 hp and 310 lbs of TQ. Going to wait a couple weeks for tuners BUT 184 hp in a 7 passenger (quasi) is silly.

 

Just read this thread and a few others. I am 72 years old and looking for a smaller vehicle than my Sienna or the Atlas but why oh why do they (VW) think small means slow and crappy much like my ole carcuss. At any rate it seems that VW goes above and beyond to code their ECU's so that they cannot be played with. Do you think they know that it is costing them sales. I want the Tiguan but think I am going to be stuck with the new Mazda CX-5 with the new 2.5 turbo. 250 hp and 310 lbs of TQ. Going to wait a couple weeks for tuners BUT 184 hp in a 7 passenger (quasi) is silly.

Hey Dunk50,

Stuck with the new Mazda CX-5? Don't you have a choice?

I know a lot of folks tend to beat on the Tiguan by complaining about it's "slow performance"...but I don't believe they are being fair...they need to compare apples to apples. Comparing the performance of a Tiggy to a GLI (no offence intended Tim) doesn't make much sense to me. I know it's human nature to compare something new to what you are familiar with...I'm coming from a Jetta TDI...which was great on gas and fun to drive in it's own right. I needed something bigger, with loads of great creature comforts (getting up there in age myself), but didn't want to spend too much buying it (don't want car payments for the next 5-7 years), nor something that hurt my wallet at the pump. Going with a higher-performing vehicle means premium unleaded...and may not be worth it in the long run.

Another consideration is build quality. My daughter owns a Mazda...which she enjoys...but I've never been impressed with their vehicles of late. Give me a classic Mazda B-series pickup from back in the day...those were bullet proof...great for hauling stuff...but not too practical for day to day use or comfortable for long road trips.

Don't get me wrong...I love to go fast too. Which is why I have the supercharged beast in the garage for weekends in the summer!

My advise is to test drive both....at comparable trim levels...and don't feel as though you need to be easy on it...put it to the floor if you want! You are the customer!

When I took the Tiguan out on a test drive for the first time, I mentioned to the VW salesman that it seemed a little sluggish...so he suggested I switch it from Eco to Sport mode. Which I did and I was impressed! It was plenty responsive and a joy to drive...and if I just want to putz around and save gas I have the option to switch it back to Eco mode...which is a nice feature. At the time I was comparing it to an Audi Q5, but went for the Tiguan for a bunch of reasons (some listed above). I've owned VW's for years now...and have been told I'm a bit of a 'VW fan boy'...(don't like that term)...but I've been super impressed with my Tiguan Highline (Sel Premium in the US)...my mechanic calls it an Audi with a VW badge. The best of both worlds.

Enjoy!

Jim.