Re: Top 10 worst cars ever produced (MK4ryan)
if they're the worst cars ever produced, then why are they on your *wish* list?
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if they're the worst cars ever produced, then why are they on your *wish* list?
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You "young-'uns" have no memory of the TRUE, ABSOLUTE, WORST, LOWER-DOWN THAN WHALETURDS automobile ever peddled on this or any other planet...
The Chevrolet Vega.
Believe me. It's true. The good part is that the Vega was SO dreadfully awful that, as far as I know, there are, barely 30 years after its debut on the backs of tow-trucks across America, NONE still rolling, let alone running.
With the Vega, GeeEmm set a standard for automotive skankiness that even THEY have yet to surpass.
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The Chevrolet Vega.
Believe me. It's true. The good part is that the Vega was SO dreadfully awful that, as far as I know, there are, barely 30 years after its debut on the backs of tow-trucks across America, NONE still rolling, let alone running.
With the Vega, GeeEmm set a standard for automotive skankiness that even THEY have yet to surpass.
Re: Top 10 worst cars ever produced (MK4ryan)
The Avalanche is about the ugliest thing on the road (next to the Aztek and the EXT) but it is a well engineered relatively well thought out truck. It hits its market (people who want to use a full size pick-up as a sedan) perfectly.
Back on topic: How many cars did Yugo make, anyway?
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The Avalanche is about the ugliest thing on the road (next to the Aztek and the EXT) but it is a well engineered relatively well thought out truck. It hits its market (people who want to use a full size pick-up as a sedan) perfectly.
Back on topic: How many cars did Yugo make, anyway?
Re: Top 10 worst cars ever produced (VWnewbie)
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Back on topic: How many cars did Yugo make, anyway?
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They´re still making them.Back on topic: How many cars did Yugo make, anyway?
Re: Top 10 worst cars ever produced (vwlarry)
I remember a "10 worst cars" discussion some while ago on the forum, and someone quoted about the Vega/Astre from a magazine: "they rust, overheat and the aluminium engine has the durability of a potato chip"
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If the Vega tops the worst cars ever list, who would follow? Gathering the many opinions given out on this subject- the worst cars foisted upon America, and Britain too. Hence the Yugo, Chevette, Pacer, Gremlin, Allegro and Marina make the list.
I remember a "10 worst cars" discussion some while ago on the forum, and someone quoted about the Vega/Astre from a magazine: "they rust, overheat and the aluminium engine has the durability of a potato chip"
If the Vega tops the worst cars ever list, who would follow? Gathering the many opinions given out on this subject- the worst cars foisted upon America, and Britain too. Hence the Yugo, Chevette, Pacer, Gremlin, Allegro and Marina make the list.
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Re: Top 10 worst cars ever produced (David Votoupal)
Actually, a lot of the vehicles on the list are fairly decent--the K-car saved Chrysler, the X-90 was an interesting experiment in inexpensively producing a niche vehicle, and the Scorpio was heavily underrated.
The Ford Tempo/Mercury Topaz could be considered--dismal reliability and an outdated platform. What about the very first Kia Sephia, the one with the 1.6-L engine that they initially imported? Or maybe the Cadillac Cimarron?
I bet David could come up with a truly definitive list if you gave him a few minutes.
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quote:[HR][/HR]When we are discussing such a topic, we must do so objectively. We can't assume cars to be bad just because we don't like them. Let's contain the discussion to the truly junky/unreliable cars which wore out/broke quickly.[HR][/HR]
Exactly. For example, the Aztek is actually a fairly decent vehicle in many respects--it's just ugly.Actually, a lot of the vehicles on the list are fairly decent--the K-car saved Chrysler, the X-90 was an interesting experiment in inexpensively producing a niche vehicle, and the Scorpio was heavily underrated.
The Ford Tempo/Mercury Topaz could be considered--dismal reliability and an outdated platform. What about the very first Kia Sephia, the one with the 1.6-L engine that they initially imported? Or maybe the Cadillac Cimarron?
I bet David could come up with a truly definitive list if you gave him a few minutes.
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Re: Top 10 worst cars ever produced (bgluckman)
The Asstek, well, is a classic case of very good idea which is dreadfully executed. If you gave VW or Toyota the challenge to come up with something similar, they would do the concept a lot better.
With regards to the Scorpio, it doesn't warrant a place on the list as 70s/80s European Fords are decent cars and I do like Euro Granadas a lot, along with Escort GTs, Euro Capris and Cortina GTs. The Pinto was basically a sound car and never as bad as everyone made them out to be. They had excellent suspension geometry favoured for racing, a strong structure and strong engines.
The Volare/Aspen, whatever you may think, at least had the 225 slant six, 318 V8 and 360 V8- as good engines as one could get at the time. The K-Car was regarded as junk, sure, but indeed it also saved Chrysler. But as I said above, cars like the Chevette, Cimarron, Vega, Gremlin, Pacer, Yugo, Allegro, Marina and the likes of the Maxi, Maestro, Montego all truly belong on that list. The Tempo would, as well, and the Rover 800 (Sterling) series. So would many cars with a Lucas electrical system, particularly 70s/80s Jaguars.
BMC (Austin/Morris merger, aka British Leyland) were responsible for foisting some of THE worst pieces of dung onto British motorists. It's the very reason the British car industry is where it is today http://****************.com/smile/emthdown.gif They even built cars in Australia, though at the same time Leyland here did something good. They built a large car, the P76, to compete with Holdens, Falcons and Valiants in the early 70s. All-Australian in design, with the exception that the engines were larger derivatives of the Austin six and Rover V8. It was a sales disaster, pretty much Australia's Edsel. Yet it wasn't a bad car at all- pretty cool styling, good performance and economy, good handling. Likely it was undermined by early glitches, or by a parent company failing miserably. Today, a good one is sought after http://****************.com/smile/emthup.gif
[Modified by David Votoupal, 10:42 AM 11-28-2001]
The Asstek, well, is a classic case of very good idea which is dreadfully executed. If you gave VW or Toyota the challenge to come up with something similar, they would do the concept a lot better.
With regards to the Scorpio, it doesn't warrant a place on the list as 70s/80s European Fords are decent cars and I do like Euro Granadas a lot, along with Escort GTs, Euro Capris and Cortina GTs. The Pinto was basically a sound car and never as bad as everyone made them out to be. They had excellent suspension geometry favoured for racing, a strong structure and strong engines.
The Volare/Aspen, whatever you may think, at least had the 225 slant six, 318 V8 and 360 V8- as good engines as one could get at the time. The K-Car was regarded as junk, sure, but indeed it also saved Chrysler. But as I said above, cars like the Chevette, Cimarron, Vega, Gremlin, Pacer, Yugo, Allegro, Marina and the likes of the Maxi, Maestro, Montego all truly belong on that list. The Tempo would, as well, and the Rover 800 (Sterling) series. So would many cars with a Lucas electrical system, particularly 70s/80s Jaguars.
BMC (Austin/Morris merger, aka British Leyland) were responsible for foisting some of THE worst pieces of dung onto British motorists. It's the very reason the British car industry is where it is today http://****************.com/smile/emthdown.gif They even built cars in Australia, though at the same time Leyland here did something good. They built a large car, the P76, to compete with Holdens, Falcons and Valiants in the early 70s. All-Australian in design, with the exception that the engines were larger derivatives of the Austin six and Rover V8. It was a sales disaster, pretty much Australia's Edsel. Yet it wasn't a bad car at all- pretty cool styling, good performance and economy, good handling. Likely it was undermined by early glitches, or by a parent company failing miserably. Today, a good one is sought after http://****************.com/smile/emthup.gif
[Modified by David Votoupal, 10:42 AM 11-28-2001]
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