Thanks for looking.
My budget is up to 12k.
Here is the deal, I am looking for a 97-98 GTI
I can afford a clean, avg. mile VR-6, but will have little cash, if any, left over for tuning it.
Or, I have found a few very low mile 4cyl GTI and have a good amount of cash left over for extras.
I have driven both.
What is you opinion?
i would build the 2.0 because of handling reasons the vr6 will never be as agile as a 2.0 in the corners... but the 2.0 can create the power and torque of a vr6 with enough work.... so i have to go with build the 8 valve if you are not looking for monster power and want to get away from understeering vr6's ...if you want raw power... nothing compares to a vr6 ... the exhaust note.. the throaty intake manifold .... its such a special and unique thing
quote:[HR][/HR]i would build the 2.0 because of handling reasons the vr6 will never be as agile as a 2.0 in the corners... but the 2.0 can create the power and torque of a vr6 with enough work.... so i have to go with build the 8 valve if you are not looking for monster power and want to get away from understeering vr6's ...if you want raw power... nothing compares to a vr6 ... the exhaust note.. the throaty intake manifold .... its such a special and unique thing
I didnt get a VR6 'cause I didnt need the gobs of power. I wanted a good handling car and somthing that was capable of getting some hp. I didnt want 0-60 in 4 seconds. If I did I would have bought an AWD talon. I just wanted a car that could get a 185hp. I drove the VR6 and the 4 cylinder back to back. I loved the power of the VR6 but hated the understeer. So I am now saving for all the other things that I need to buy to make a mid 14, yet be able to handle on these upstate NY roads.
It wasn't a money issue either. I spent $10k either way.
The VR is so nice because it gives you gobs of usable power down low, were you need it most when driving in day to day life. And did anyone mention the sound of a VR with intake and exhasut as it passes 4k at wide open throttle??
i would go with a six but I'm biased. I've owned both and the 2.0 is more agile. Just to clarify though, the understeer can be easily worked out of the VR6 with some suspension tuning. The 2.0 will always sound like a 4. The VR6 is great off the floor. It has enough power to whet your appetite long enough to tune the suspension first. Then you will get used to it and need more but it's at your finger tips. The six is a bit more expensive to do things to. But that makes me think of the old saying. If you want to play, you have to pay. So out of experience I would suggest the six as I hated my 2.0 for not having enough power even with the $3500 + I sunk into the motor. JMO
I would say a 2.0
Adding a turbo is no sweat, and there is always room to make the motor a beast and hang with the VR6. There are PLENTY of aftermarket engine internals and little thingamabobs available for the 2.0, but you'll have to fork out $1500 for a set of new cams for the VR6 (schrick), where as the 2.0 is a few hundred, just as an example. I'm sure there are cheaper cams.
2.0's are lighter also, but anyways.
Just don't buy an Auto and make it a pocket rocket, cause you'll get flamed here forever....
[Modified by SupafreekVDubber, 10:02 PM 12-1-2001]
no matter what you do to the vr6 suspension ..its going to have understeer...you can do fewer things to the 2.0 and have it handle way better.. i have had too many vr6's spin out behind me,to give respect for the understeering issue.. i have got myself into some major situations with the vr6 understeering out of control.. and its a straight wrestle with the steering wheel and the perfect fluttering of the throttle ... my 2.0 feels like its on rails ... you complain about your old 2.0 not having enough power... well bring your vr6 ...and run me against my 2.0 with a cam.... i know for a fact i will pull in the corners like you were standing still .....but im not singleing you out... this is for majority of vr6's ...you wasted 3500 on a 2.0 motor ... hahahahaa and you didnt like it.. if i had 3500 to blow into my engine ... i would be working half of the vr6's like it was nothing ....maybe you just didnt know what you were doing???
Thanks for all the great replies guys!
Thats really helps.
By the way, I am not really into going super fast. But I do like to leave people in traffic if I have to, I don't drive much at all, I walk to work.
It seems right now there are better 2.0's out there, than 6's
But I am in a good position as I have about 2 months before I really even need a car.
Keep the replies coming!
take your time....there is no substitute for time ...make the right decision http://****************.com/smile/emthup.gif
if i was you .... i had 12 k to spend... i would buy a pos obd1 mk3 for abour 3k...with a good body thats all i want.... no rust no dents ..etc... then dump 5 grand for a 1.8t 20 valve swap with all the goodies.. turbo upgrade... exhaust ..downpipe ..etc etc... full suspension for 2 grand ...and you still have a couple grand for paint and interior......thats what i would do
in my eyes...
#1 is a 1.8T
#2 is a VR6 (TT)
#3 is a VR6 (superC'd)
#4 is a Vr6
#5 is a 2.0 (anyway you want)
this is only for motor performance!
for the whole car...
#1 is a 1.8T
#2 is a 2.0
#3 is a Vr6
sorry i didnt help.... so just buy my silver 98 and i'll agree it's the best for everything
STEALTHDEMONDUB and Golf_CL
Thats what I was thinking.
With the money I have now, I can probably afford, 17" wheels, Full suspension, and a charger or turbo. And have a very unique car!
BTW of the two 4cyl that are local, one has 22.5K miles and the other has 64K, and lasy driven, The VR-6's see, to be more often than not, owned by younger people and not treated as they should. In that I am refering to the general public, not anyone here of course....
If your car was here I would totally consider yet,
I found out that getting it here and having the bank finance an out of state car is a big huge pain. Pretty much I would need to come up with all the money in cash first.
Get the car here, register it and then the bank will finance.
6 ... 6 .... 6.... 6
I had a 2.slow cabrio... and when it got totalled i got a corrado vr6... after someone hit me in that too.. i was strapped for cash.. so instead of a beautiful 2.slow again.. OH yeah i got the 6 with a huge key mark down the side and a blow suspension... is that convinving enough??
6 is the way to go
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