I can't live with the Ford-isms and Mustang-isms of the Mach-e, but that's an opinion. See below for more factual issues.Sorry but this car sucks and if the masses buy it, it's because they're ignorant. The Ionic 5 and Mach-E are just better, across the aboard.
"It's cheaper" doesn't hold water with me. $2,000 cheaper isn't really cheaper at $40,000 especially when you're getting less for that money.
If anyone has driven these cars, it wouldn't be a question. I was in the Mach-E and the ID.4 back to back and the Mach-E was like a super car and the ID.4 felt like a ****ty SUV with ****ty infotainment.
I'll address more of the 'clearly decontented vs competitors' more separately, but you can see below that it's not 'decontented' in a base-for-base comparison with the Mach-e.Again if VW's only calling card is it's cheaper than the competition, then that doesn't bode well for sales. This isn't quicker, doesn't have better range, doesn't handle better, doesn't have a more premium interior, doesn't have a better UI, or media system, is clearly decontented vs competitors, etc, etc.
There's been some comments about how one should just pay more $ and get the Mach-e instead of the ID.4. I wanted to make a factual comparison as to why I disagree, not opinions/personal preferences.
A lot of the argument against the ID.4 is based on the infotainment software. Currently the ID.4 has version 2.1 of the software. Version 2.3 is being released as an over-the-air update soon, which is supposed to have improvements to the interface speed and menu layout. A more significant version 3.0 is also rumoured for later in the year, as apparently VW has said they will release updates approximately every 3 months. While you shouldn't buy a (car, phone, camera, etc.) based on promises of firmware upgrades that might not ever happen, all indications are that the speed and UI issues are being taken seriously.
This is the comparison of key features between the base Mach-e 'Select' and the base ID.4 'Pro', obviously not everything is listed but I wanted to compare the advanced driver assistance and some other key points:
|Feature||Mach-e 'Select'||ID.4 'Pro'|
|Price before EV incentives||42895||39995|
|Range (miles, EPA)||230||260|
|Heated front seats||Optional||Standard|
|Blind spot / cross-traffic||Standard||Standard|
|Lane keeping assist||Standard||Standard|
|Automatic emergency braking (high speed)||Standard||Standard|
|Automatic emergency braking (low speed)||Standard||Standard|
|Adaptive cruise / lane centering||Standard||Standard|
|Navigation / CarPlay / AndroidAuto||Yes / Yes / Yes||Yes / Yes / Yes|
|Wireless charging / USB-C||1 / 1 front / 1 rear||1 / 2 front / 2 rear|
|ID Light' visual cues for navigation, etc.||N/A||Standard|
Heated seats and heated wheel are a big deal in terms of energy efficiency for an EV. They are not in the base model Mach-e, and therefore increased use of the cabin heater will only make the Mach-e range deficit worse.
While a lot of the conversation in the ID.4 threads on here has been about HVAC controls, that's not the only thing that should inform your purchase decision. BOTH cars have ADAS features like advanced cruise and lane-centering/autosteer included as standard. This is something much more important to compare software performance on. It is completely unreasonable to dismiss the ID.4 and say that everyone should spend more money to get less range with the Mach-e based on minor details about the ID.4 HVAC controls.
In this ID.4 video, skip to 26:35 and see how it follows the lane markings perfectly. Then continue to 28:00 and watch Kyle demonstrate the reaction of the ID.4 autosteer system if the driver is incapacitated. If you ignore the alert to take over steering, it will beep at you to get your attention, pulse the brake pedal, then brake firmly to a full stop while putting on the hazards and honking the horn.
In this Mach-e video, skip to 36:30 and see how the Mach-e makes poor choices about following the lane markings and he describes how bright sun can cause it to react erratically. Then continue to 38:20 and watch Kyle demonstrate the reaction of the Mach-e autosteer system if the driver is incapacitated. It initially stays in the correct direction of travel as it follows the double-yellow line into a left-turn lane. If you ignore the alert to take over steering, it will beep at you to get your attention, then brake slowly to a near stop. It never fully stopped. Instead, it then accelerated to about 7 MPH straight ahead which, since it had followed the line into a turning lane, puts it driving into oncoming traffic. It never activated the hazards or honked the horn. This is completely unacceptable behaviour - it should have come to a complete stop. This can be fixed in software, but should never have made it to sale this way.
Also in that Mach-e video, skip to 9:35 where Kyle discusses the interaction of the regen braking and friction braking in 1-pedal mode. This is another strike against the Mach-e (that could also be fixed in software).
Dismissing the ID.4 as "this car sucks / buyers are ignorant" and lauding the Mach-e which has demonstrably more serious issues is itself an ignorant position. The ID.4 isn't perfect, but I'd pick it over the Mach-e based on price, range, charging curve, and tech, not even counting all the Ford-isms that I dislike about it. While I love the Ioniq 5 in theory... pricing hasn't been released for the US, the base model lacks features, and I'm certain it's not going to be price-competitive with the ID.4.