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whats the lumens of the stock 9007 philips jetta bulb?

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does anyone noe whats the lumens for low beam and high beam for stock 9007 philips bulb?
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Re: whats the lumens of the stock 9007 philips jetta bulb? (helpmeplease)

The Philips miniature lamp catalog rates the 9007 at 107/80 candlepower (CP). Other lamp types are listed in lumens. Convert CP to lumans by multiplying it by 12.57 (1345/1006).
Re: whats the lumens of the stock 9007 philips jetta bulb? (Lumalux)

that is exactly the same lumens as my sylvannia silverstar. i guess silverstar is not brighter after all
Re: whats the lumens of the stock 9007 philips jetta bulb? (helpmeplease)

I believe Sylvania advertises that the Silver Stars have a higher color temperature (whiter) rather than actually being brighter. If they burn hotter than the regular 9007, they will appear whiter and emit more ultraviolet light which will make the light "crisper".
Re: whats the lumens of the stock 9007 philips jetta bulb? (Lumalux)

The Silverstar,Premium, Vision Plus all achieve there superior performance by increased luminance not lumen. This is also the principle behind the Japanese lamps claiming 55w=80w performance etc.
Re: whats the lumens of the stock 9007 philips jetta bulb? (Nick Cottiss)

Nick, explain the difference between luminance and brightness. I know it's discussed in the intriduction to the Sylvania large lamp catalog which I have at home.
Is luminance perceived brightness (factoring in things such as color temperature, CRI, and UV radiation)?
Thanks.
Re: whats the lumens of the stock 9007 philips jetta bulb? (Lumalux)

the silver star is better than premium or not?
Re: whats the lumens of the stock 9007 philips jetta bulb? (Lumalux)

It’s a huge subject but I will try and keep it as simple as I can so it’s not just a discussion between 2 industry insiders.
Firstly colour temperature is purely the X Y co-ordinate on the black body curve. It has nothing to do with brightness or lightoutput it is simply a colour point. On all image manipulation software like Photo shop, Corel draw you have colours and that colour has a co-ordinate usually an RGB mix (Red Green Blue). This is EXACTLY how the colour co-ordinate is based for Colorimetry for lamps. It is still a mix (as all light) of RGB but is expressed on the colorimetry graph as an X and Y co-ordinate and as such has a colour temperature rated at xxxxx degrees Kelvin.
Lumen spec on a light source and here on car lamps is measured in a photometric sphere and is the measurement of the TOTAL light output from that lamp. This is where the R37 and DOT specs are drawn up.
However the important performance aspect on a headlight beam is its distribution and luminance. Luminance is a figure taken at the filament and is expressed as CD/M2. It is in simplistic terms how bright is that single spot on the filament as opposed to how much light is the whole filament giving out. Why is this important? Well your reflector and lens collect 10000's of images of the filament and distribute them up the road. You beam is infact made up of 10000 of images of your filament. The art of the headlamp designer (now done on a computer) is how to distribute these images. If you want to try and prove this park up in a dark garage and turn all the lights off except your headlight. Cover the side you don’t need and park up a few feet from the wall. Now take a piece of card big enough to cover your headlight and make a nail size hole in it. You will now see with some movement a single image of a filament on your garage wall. Move the card around over the headlamp lens and the filament will move. What infact is happening is that at each point on the lens you have a different image of the filament.
Now if you take that filament and reduce its size and burn it harder it becomes 'brighter' expressed as a higher CD/M2. If each of the filament images on the road in your beam are now brighter you have better headlamp performance
mmmmmm a tad long but I hope this helps
Oh and before anyone asks you will never be given the CD/M2 figure from any lamp as this is 'Industry Secrets' so no need to ask!!!!!!!
Nick
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Re: whats the lumens of the stock 9007 philips jetta bulb? (Nick Cottiss)

Hey you seem to know something about bulbs, so tell us, which one is the best (assuming we wanted to keep the standart wattage)?
Re: whats the lumens of the stock 9007 philips jetta bulb? (impact)

I'm sorry I do not have enough experience of the 9007 lamp to make any specific recommendations. All I would suggest is stick to a renown manufacturer like Osram or GE. Philips does not make a 9007
Nick
Re: whats the lumens of the stock 9007 philips jetta bulb? (impact)

The only choice, really, for the 9007 headlights on the Jetta is the Sylvania Silverstar. Unfortunately, Philips does not manufacture their VisionPlus bulb in the 9007 format, so you are left with only one choice.
See my sig for a review and install guide.
Re: whats the lumens of the stock 9007 philips jetta bulb? (catalytic)

Phillips now seems to have expanded their 9007 & 9004 offerings. Check out http://www.autooptiks.com/matrix.html. I'm no light tech, but they offer more lumens than the Sylvania Silver Stars at the same wattage. However, the color temp is lower. Actually, the autooptiks site offers some great tech info, including when one may not want the "whitest " light.
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