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Today I saw a nice McLaren 570S doing everyday things at the suburban strip mall shopping plaza.





And it got me thinking. There are a lot of modern McLaren models to choose from. And they all follow the same basic recipe: carbon fiber chassis, rear mid-engine configuration, twin-turbo V8. The rest is all just details: supplemental power via electric motors, different aero, etc.

MP4-12C
12C
650S
675LT
720S
765LT
570S
570GT
600LT
P1
Senna

So other than collector value, track performance or bragging rights, which is the best McLaren in your view?

I’ve often heard people say the best Porsche is the one in your own driveway. I imagine it’s similar for McLaren. Noted master distiller Dr. Bill Lumsden of Glenmorangie says his favorite single malt scotch whisky expression is almost always the 10 year, because it best captures the essence of that distillery, their malted barley, yeast, water, still, casks and labor. And that exotic expressions may be rare and exciting and creative outlet for the distiller, but their inflated costs are due mostly to crazed collectors who demand a limited supply due to the age and the need for the distillery to achieve a reasonable ROI. I believe that McLarens are probably similar in that regard also.

For me, I’m thinking the sweet spot is probably the 570GT. It is faster than anyone has a right to go yet seems to be the easiest to live with on the street. It’s not too expensive, all things considered. And it’s relatively new, so isn’t afflicted with the early development issues that affect the 12C.



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I'll take the new GT if I were to get a McLaren and I'd get it in Serpentine with the seven-spoke wheels and Luxe trim.
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But really, I'd probably get a Ferrari 550 from about 2001 if I were spending that much. I'd be much happier with life. I do like the McLaren GT, though.
 

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Without ever seeing any McLaren in person, let alone sitting in one, let alone driving one, let alone being able to afford one and a garage in which to store it?

720S, hands down.

It's got a proper greenhouse, compliance, and ground clearance to be used as an actual car. It's the only automatic car that interests me in any way whatsoever. I love what they did with that thing.
 

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All of the newer ones kind of blend together for me, but they are the best looking of the super cars, IMO

otherwise, the best McLarens are the F1 and the Can-Am cars:
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I struggle to differentiate them from one another so I’ll just say P1 because it’s a technological tour de force.

Are any of their current road cars hybridized?
 

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All of the newer ones kind of blend together for me
This is my thought as well. I live near a McLaren dealer and see most of the current cars fairly regularly. They all have a very similar look, though I've been warming to the GT. But once you've seen one, you've seen them all IMO.

I would think that if you're looking for your first exotic supercar, any McLaren you could afford would work. If you've been playing in this world for a while, one might be a bit more particular.

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The only McLaren I acknowledge is the F1. Especially after Macca's managing director said this:


"The V12 is a thing of the past. The engine belongs in a museum." While models like the Lamborghini Aventador still use the powerplant, Sheriff contends increasing environmental pressures will eventually doom the engine.

As he explained, "It's almost impossible to efficiently develop a V12 engine that meets the demands of consumers and government. The engine is too big and heavy and creates a lot of internal friction. Remember, the extra cylinders indicate a longer wheelbase, a weight gain of 40 kg (88 lbs) and 30% more CO2 emissions."
Hey doo doo head, that same reductive logic could be used to write off your whole brand in favor of Hyundai Ioniqs

He is right though that the V12 belongs in a museum though.... the S70/2 is one of the greatest road car engines of all time. When the regulators and specubators triumph in squeezing out the last bit of character from road cars, we will look back to the F1, not the new stuff, as a reminder of what was good.
 
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The GT would be my immediate go-to if I won the lottery, it is the perfect example of the NSX creedo, make it excellent and make it useful. Sure its not for a Thanksgiving of groceries, but its useful for a shorter trip and is otherwise an extremely well-done supercar. Yeah it looks like a C8 from some angles, but its more refined and doesn't have juveline thing going on that GM can't seem to shake (see: machete-cut styling of side intakes, Camaro ass)

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Tough choice.

I think the GT is the one I'd want to live with. But the 720S in that gorgeous red metallic they offer it in is one of the most jaw dropping cars around.

That answer assuming we're sticking to modern and newly available cars. Otherwise the answer to this question and the "if you could have only 1 vehicle, and it be any vehicle, what would it be?" is and always will be the F1.
 

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Mysterious F1 variants tucked away behind a pachinko parlor in a Nagoya suburb are the best. My hard drive crashed and I lost all the other photos.

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The cheapest one that is most dependable !!

If I was starting today, the 570S would be the best bang for the buck. 720S for just pure driving ridiculousness.

The 12C is the most true to form and evocative of the F1 styling. So I still love it. And after driving it all over the West, I can confirm it’s a very comfy and usable road car .

I had my 12C at Sonoma Raceway last week and a guy stopped by my garage space to say “ this has been my dream car for 20 years”.... he thought it was an F1. That doesn’t happen with a 570 ;-)

Here is the F1



And my 12C

 

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Reliability issues aside, one of the things that always struck me about the modern McLarens were the comments about usability.
Since the MP4-12C it's been said that the ride is surprisingly compliant on the comfort modes, whcih makes the car a lot more usable. This + nose lift makes them very interesting cars for places where the roads aren't always smooth surfaces.
I saw a 570S the other day doing down the street with its nose lifted and while it did look bizarre, it was able to drive quite normally through bumps and other obstacles that normally make lower cars crawl.
 

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The cheapest one that is lost dependable !!

If I was starting today, the 570S would be the best bang for the buck. 720S for just pure driving ridiculousness.

The 12C is the most true to form and evocative of the F1 styling. So I still love it. And after driving it all over the West, I can conform it’s a very comfy and usable road car .

I had my 12C at Sonoma Raceway last week and a guy stopped by my garage space to say “ this has been my dream car for 20 years”.... he thought it was an F1. That doesn’t happen with a 570 ;-)

Here is the F1



And my 12C

Nice to hear from an owner with first hand experience. I’m only going by what I’ve read, but I understand they made continuous improvements to the MP4-12C and it then became known as the 12C. Other than being totally sublime to drive, how has the ownership experience been? Do you have it serviced at a McLaren dealer or do you have a trusted independent specialist? Any problems or unusual service requirements?
 
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