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Wht do you have for winter tires?

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I am looking for winter tires for my '96 GLX and am running into problems. No one makes a 215/50-15 winter tire. I have gone on line and they have wheel packages with different sized tires but the cost when all is said and done make it really hard for me to afford. Anyone have the stock rims with winter tires? What size tires do you have? I have a good size hill I contend with every day and there are times that good winter tires make the difference of getting to work or not.
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Re: Wht do you have for winter tires? (96passatowner)

hmm, i don't have snow tires but where i live, i should!
ask [email protected] in the wheels & tires forum
bill
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Re: Wht do you have for winter tires? (jebglx)

I think that usually when people get snowtires they end up with a narrower and taller tire than the stock/summer rubber. From what I have been quoted for my car, I'd be looking at a 205 or 195/60 14. The narrower contact patch provides more traction, and the higher profile helps with plowing through deeper snow.
Re: Wht do you have for winter tires? (96passatowner)

I got Toyo Observe, size 195/55-15... A bit tall, It sometimes rubs on the outer fender lip, next time I'll go smaller. Great tire for snowy conditions though!!!! However it does have a tendency to squirm a bit more, and dry pavement performance is not as good as the Pirelli's I had before.
Re: Wht do you have for winter tires? (96passatowner)

Speaking not as one who has [yet?] run snow tires on a Passat, but w/ a good working knowledge of principles and winter tires, you won't want to run on the 215/50-15's anyway.
In the snow, narrower tires are better b/c they're less prone to riding/sliding up atop a packed, icy layer. Instead they should concentrate the cars weight on a smaller patch and 'cut' through, or at least give a better coefficient of friction.
If you've ever seen the rally cars running in the snow, it looks like they're on gnarly donut spares.
The B4 can happily handle a 205/55-15, so if you're intent on keeping your aluminum wheels on, this may be the way to go. By nature this size will be better in the snow, give you much wider selection, and save you at least $15/tire.
People here seem surprisingly satisfied w/ the all-weather performance of Dunlop's SP5000 tire (see link below), which comes in both 215/50 and 205/55.
If you're going w/ seperate steel wheels (the ideal), you can play around w/ sizing. The Tire rack is a good source for this and they have a section explaining the "plus one" resizing concept. For snow tires, do the opposite; a "minus one." Maybe even a "minus two" to a 195/60-15. Run it by the Tire rack guys.
Some key notes on snow tires:
- Try for a narrower tire
- I prefer a slightly taller tire for add'l clearance and rim/suspension buffer
- Its common to use a 1" smaller rim to achieve extra sidewall height/buffer
- Steel wheels are nice; cheap/easy to repair if you slide into something
- Your car's handling will change-- for worse in the dry.
- Snow tires will let you embarass those AWD's w/ all-season tires.
I do too many miles in too little snow to be comfortable w/ pure snow tires-- they can be loud and wear so fast its hard to justify the cost. For such conditions I prefer 'winter tires,' as opposed to snow tires. The idea is more of an all-season tire that is biased toward snow handling.
For that, look into a set of Nokians. Either the new NRW (all-season/winter tire) or the Hakkapeliitta Q (long-wearing snow tire) would make an ideal winter tire. Nokians are regarded as a premium tire, favored by rally nuts, w/ performance comparable to tires like Blizzaks, but w/ much longer tread life. People w/ Nokians swear by them like its religion.
Who knows, you may get up that hill this winter and still not make it to the office-- b/c you're out playing! (Its happened to me)
I hope this was helpful-- I should get out of software and into a tire shop where I belong.
http://www.tirerack.com/survey/Surv...e=Dunlop&tireModel=SP+Sport+5000+Asymmetrical
http://www.nokiantires.com
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Re: Wht do you have for winter tires? (RedShift42)

Get the Nokian Hakka Q's. I have them on my Golf and they have incredible wet grip. A bit noisier than an all season though. http://****************.com/smile/emthup.gif http://****************.com/smile/emthup.gif http://****************.com/smile/emthup.gif
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Re: Wht do you have for winter tires? (Bob Roberts)

Yoks A520's, I dont drive in the snow!
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Re: Wht do you have for winter tires? (Wrenhaven)

Thanks for the help! I tracked down a dealer for the Nokians. They said I will not have problems running 195/60-15 on my rims. I am scheduled for next week to have them mounted.
Re: Wht do you have for winter tires? (96passatowner)

quote:[HR][/HR]Thanks for the help! I tracked down a dealer for the Nokians. They said I will not have problems running 195/60-15 on my rims. I am scheduled for next week to have them mounted.[HR][/HR]​
Sounds like an excellent set up http://****************.com/smile/emthup.gif
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Re: Wht do you have for winter tires? (96passatowner)

Nokian Hakka 1 on 14" steel wheels. HIGHLY Recommended! Don't screw arould having your tires swapped around all the time. It is a waste of money. Sorry, i posted this after I realized that you already made the correct decision
You won't be dissappointed.


[Modified by cheiden, 10:04 AM 12-1-2001]
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Re: Wht do you have for winter tires? (96passatowner)

96passatowner,
Be sure to have them check the clearances before you drive off. I just checked and the 195/60-16 Nokian NRW, Hak 1, and Hak Q is about 3/4" larger in diameter than the factory-spec 215/50-15. (24.2" vs. 23.5").
I agree w/ the sentiment that you should go w/ dedicated wheels if possible. Steelies can be gotten for nearly the cost of a mount & re-mount-- cheap and easier in the long run. By having dedicated winter wheels/tires you will have superior tires for winter and not live w/ the compromises (noise and softened handling) the rest of the year.
Keep us posted on which ones you get and how you like them. I'm always eager to hear people's experiences w/ different snows.
Re: Wht do you have for winter tires? (96passatowner)

I just stayed with the original Eagle GA tires for our two Passats. They might not be a greatest performance tire. But, I found them fine for our NJ winters, and teh mileage is very good. I've been getting 42,000 miles-plus per set (3 sets on my 118,000-mile wagon, and two sets on my wife's 93,000-mile sedan), so I'm very pleased.
Re: Wht do you have for winter tires? (jebglx)

"hmm, i don't have snow tires but where i live, i should!"
Wimp boy! Dinner Thursday or Friday looks good.
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Re: Wht do you have for winter tires? (96passatowner)

Sorry, to answer your question ... by far and away, the best tires I had for the snow were Gislaved on my old Rabbit. Not the advertising budget of other manufacturers, but you may want to search them out.
http://www.swedishsolution.com/snow.html
Re: Wht do you have for winter tires? (Cooper)

quote:[HR][/HR]"hmm, i don't have snow tires but where i live, i should!"
Wimp boy! Dinner Thursday or Friday looks good.
[HR][/HR]​
this wimp boy is gonna kick your ass
!!! e-mail me @ work & we'll work something out

bill
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Re: Wht do you have for winter tires? (jebglx)

My wife's car ('92 B3 wagon 16v) has 4 Haaka 1s that make the car feel like it has 4mo. For those of us in snow country they are a must
Re: Wht do you have for winter tires? (Cooper)

In the mid-80s I had the Ginslaveds on a '77 Scirocco. The only thing that would stop that car is when it high-centered!!
Even then you could usually back up and take another run at it.
Wish I knew were I could get them now.
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