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[Summary: Blau CDC-A08 plays for only a short period before stopping]
I recently purchased an all-Blau system to replace the (bizarre) Bose gear in my
'92 Audi 100CS. My wife likes cassettes, so I chose the RCM126 Sydney, the CDC-A08 changer, and four Graphite-series speakers.
The sound is great; however, I have an interesting problem with the CD player. After approximately two minutes of normal play, the CD will stop, accompanied by a few clicks from the speakers. The CD function won't respond at all after this. The radio and cassette continue to work fine, they never have trouble.
I have to power-cycle the headunit (thereby toggling the 12v relay for the radio
subsystem) before CD's will work again. After a few go-rounds, the CD will only
play for a few moments (if at all) before stopping again.
It doesn't matter what disc I'm playing, nor does it matter what slot the disc
is in. The changer works in all orientations. There are ways to force it to play normally (see below) so I'm still looking for gotcha's here.
My vendor (Continental Imports, in Florida -- very helpful folks, I might add!) offered to replace components; but, the problem persists. They suggested that
I might have a problem with the Audi's common electrical ground. If the grounding point gets dirty or corroded, then you can experience strange problems.
I've checked the (relatively new) battery, and insured that the negative
terminal is getting a clean and solid connection to the vehicle chassis under the right rear seat. So, I'm really not sure whether there is a grounding problem.
Here's a symptom that I did notice: When I'm sitting in the car, the door-
open tone enunciates when I switch on the radio -- that's normal. What's odd is that the tone will start to sputter and grow faint after a few minutes. Perhaps this suggests some sort of low-voltage situation, or other electrical problem?
There is one way that I can get the CDC-A08 to keep playing. If I switch on the headlights (only the parking lights come on, since there is no key in the ignition), the CDC-A08 will play perfectly. The door chime also returns to full strength. If I turn the lights off, then the shy behavior returns. Hmm, interesting.
I've examined the wiring adapter for the Sydney, and confirmed that I have it sorted correctly (I had to swap the constant and switched power, otherwise it seems fine). All of the connections are tight, from what I can tell.
The vendor offered to send me a replacement cable; but, they sent the wrong one, so the CD changer cable is the only component that hasn't been swapped out. Given that I can play CD's just fine when I switch other electrical components on, I have at least some evidence that the cable works properly.
Has anyone else run across a similar problem in your VW AG car? Please let me know if you have any advice, or questions. I haven't tried testing with a voltmeter yet; but, I can borrow one, if needs be. Thanks in advance, folks...
-cheers, fattyfox


[Modified by fattyfox, 11:48 PM 2-11-2002]
 

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Re: Why does my Blau CD changer get tired? (fattyfox)

Where is your changer located in the car?
 

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Re: Why does my Blau CD changer get tired? (Non_Affiliated)

It's in the trunk. I ran the stock Blaupunkt changer cable (comes with the CDC-A08) at the same time I pulled the new speaker wires behind the dash, underneath the carpet, under the rear bench, and up into the trunk. It's fastened nicely.
That cable connects with the Blaupunkt wiring adapter for the Sydney headunit. The only change I had to make to get things working was to swap switched and constant power (a well-known problem), otherwise it's just like on the diagram.
I've recently read that there are more ground-points in this vehicle, namely in the engine compartment, low on the driver's side. Perhaps that's where the center console grounding post goes... I'll have to check it tomorrow. Any thoughts?
-cheers, fattyfox
 

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Re: Why does my Blau CD changer get tired? (fattyfox)

Well to make a long story short I was wondering if your changer was getting adequate ventilation, what you describe sounds like a heat problem. But that is probably not it. My alpine if it gets too hot it won't play.
Normally the changer cable handles the powering and grounding which will use the decks grounding mybe try re grounding your deck to a clean piece of bare metal in the dash.
 

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Re: Why does my Blau CD changer get tired? (Non_Affiliated)

Heat isn't an issue -- it happens just the same in the cold garage.
I've tried grounding directly to bare metal behind the dash; and, I've tried grounding directly to the battery's negative terminal. No change.
There are crimped connections in my system, and I'm told that I should replace those with solder connections right away. I'm also going to borrow a multimeter, and see whether there's a loose connection that escapes visual inspection.
Thanks again, folks, I appreciate your help... -cheers, fattyfox
 

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Re: Why does my Blau CD changer get tired? (fattyfox)

Update: I solved the problem -- it was the crummy wiring adapter!

I spent some time cleaning and tightening the second ground strap from
the engine block to the motor mount. It was quite dirty, and also loose,
so I hoped that this would help; but, still no worky. Consarn it!

Then I got out the multimeter. My continuous power was a steady 12.5v,
and switched power was a healthy 14.2v. So, the juice appears to be quite
palatable. My grounds were all grounded. What could be wrong?

Next, I pored over the (vague and incomplete) Blau documentation, and
found something interesting. The wiring adapter was tapping into 12V power
from a place where it shouldn't have done so, in my opinion.

For some bizarre reason, 12V switched power is sent to the CD changer
from the antenna motor output (yellow / green line) on the headunit, rather
than the (wait for it) switched power line. Why the heck is that?

The HU was dutifully trying to send power back down the hot, which
caused voltage to drop down to 4.1. Arrgh! I simply yanked and taped off
the stripey wire (I don't need it), and now I'll never stop rockin'. =-)

Whatever wiring adapter it is that Continental Imports sent me, it
definitely isn't right. I think it was actually for a Renault, at least
that's what's printed on the slip which came with it. Nice work, guys!

I guess I should have been worried when they sent me a Becker data cable
instead of a Blau -- friendly service can't entirely overcome these sorts
of fundamental problems. Blaupunkt USA ran away from the problem, too.

There are still a few odd groans when the CD changes disks, &c. so I'll
have another go at the dicey wiring harness tomorrow. The moral of the
story: Don't rely on the so-called experts! Get down there and check.

Thanks to all of you who gave advice, Blaupunkt should pay you. =-)

-cheers, Craig S. Bell
 
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