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"compact size". Well, by American standards anyway.

I don't really see anything that sets it apart from other jellybeans.
It's a VW. Plus it's a mainstream vehicle. It doesn't have to stand out. It just has to be competitive.

Why does this exist? So that people who walk into a VW dealership looking for a jelly bean of this size have something to buy. It's not complicated
 
so the USA gets the long wheelbase Tiguan, but instead of just giving the option of the short wheelbase model, they actually designed a new vehicle that's about the same size as the short wheelbase??

why???
1. It's not a new vehicle. It's a mildly rebadged SEAT Ateca which has been for sale for 4 years. It's also sold as VW Tharu in China for the last 3 yerars, and as Jetta VS5 the last 2 years.

2. SWB Tiguan is still bigger than Taos. Not by much but SWB Tiguan is considered by VW as a premium vehicle for high income countries. Low income developing countries get Tharu/Taos.

Think of SWB Tiguan as fancy Renault and Taos as basic Dacia. The implication of where VW think USA belongs in the pantheon of nations is obvious :D

VW line up:
B short: T-Cross
B long: T-Roc
B coupe: Nivus
C short: Tharu/Taos
C long 5 seat: Tiguan/Tayron
C long 7 seat: Tiguan All Space
C coupe: Tiguan X/Tayron X
C EV: ID.4
D short: Atlas Sport
D long: Touareg
E: Atlas/Terramont
 
Hmmm---maybe this could replace our Tucson down the road. Not sure I want to get into any "character" typically associated with VW products, particularly for something we would get for appliance status.
 
For those wondering about the size:

L x W x H // WB

B-segment/Subcompact short
Suzuki Breeza (not sold in the US) 157.3" x 70.5" x 64.6" // 98.4"
Honda WR-V (not sold in the US) 157.5" x 68.5" x 63.0" // 100.4"
Hyundai Venue 159.1" x 69.7" x 61.6" // 99.2"
Ford EcoSport 161.3" x 69.5" x 64.8" // 99.2
VW T-Cross (not sold in the US) 161.7" x 69.3" 62.6" // 100.4"

B-segment/Subcompact long
Hyundai Kona 164.0" x 70.9" x 61.6" // 102.4
Ford Puma (not sold in the US) 164.8" x 71.1" x 60.5" // 101.9"
Kia Soul 165.2" x 70.9" x 63.0" // 102.4"
Jeep Renegade 166.6" x 71.1" x 66.5" // 101.2"
VW T-Roc (not sold in the US) 166.7" x 71.6" x 61.9" // 102.0"

C-segment/Compacts short
Nissan Qashqai (Rogue Sport) 172.0" x 70.9" x 62.8" // 104.2"
Kia Seltos 172.0" x 70.9" x 63.6" // 103.5"
Ford Bronco Sport 172.7" x 74.3" x 70.2" // 105.1"
VW Taos 174.2" x 72.5" x 64.3" // 105.5"
Peugeot 3008 (not sold in the US) 175.2" x 72.4" x 63.8" // 105.3"

C-segment/Compact long 5 seat
Kia Sportage 176.4" x 73.0" x 64.4" // 105.1"
VW Tiguan SWB (not sold in the US) 176.6" x 72.4" x 65.9" // 105.6"
Ford Escape/Kuga 180.5" x 74.1" x 66.1 // 106.7"
Honda CR-V 180.6" x 73.0" x 66.1" // 104.7" (also available with 7 seats)
Toyota RAV4 181.1" x 73.0" x 65.4" // 105.9"

C-segment/Compact long 7 seat
Peugeot 5008 (not sold in the US) 182.7" x 72.4" x 64.6" // 111.8"
Nissan Rogue 183.0" x 72.4" x 66.9" // 106.5"
Mitsubishi Outlander 184.8" x 71.3" x 67.3" // 105.1"
VW Tiguan LWB 185.5" x 72.4" x 65.9" // 109.9" (also available with 5 seats)

Taos and Tiguan SWB is almost the same size but not quite.
 
For those wondering about the size:

L x W x H // WB

B-segment/Subcompact short
Suzuki Breeza (not sold in the US) 157.3" x 70.5" x 64.6" // 98.4"
Honda WR-V (not sold in the US) 157.5" x 68.5" x 63.0" // 100.4"
Hyundai Venue 159.1" x 69.7" x 61.6" // 99.2"
Ford EcoSport 161.3" x 69.5" x 64.8" // 99.2
VW T-Cross (not sold in the US) 161.7" x 69.3" 62.6" // 100.4"

B-segment/Subcompact long
Hyundai Kona 164.0" x 70.9" x 61.6" // 102.4
Ford Puma (not sold in the US) 164.8" x 71.1" x 60.5" // 101.9"
Kia Soul 165.2" x 70.9" x 63.0" // 102.4"
Jeep Renegade 166.6" x 71.1" x 66.5" // 101.2"
VW T-Roc (not sold in the US) 166.7" x 71.6" x 61.9" // 102.0"

C-segment/Compacts short
Nissan Qashqai (Rogue Sport) 172.0" x 70.9" x 62.8" // 104.2"
Kia Seltos 172.0" x 70.9" x 63.6" // 103.5"
Ford Bronco Sport 172.7" x 74.3" x 70.2" // 105.1"
VW Taos 174.2" x 72.5" x 64.3" // 105.5"
Peugeot 3008 (not sold in the US) 175.2" x 72.4" x 63.8" // 105.3"

C-segment/Compact long 5 seat
Kia Sportage 176.4" x 73.0" x 64.4" // 105.1"
VW Tiguan SWB (not sold in the US) 176.6" x 72.4" x 65.9" // 105.6"
Ford Escape/Kuga 180.5" x 74.1" x 66.1 // 106.7"
Honda CR-V 180.6" x 73.0" x 66.1" // 104.7" (also available with 7 seats)
Toyota RAV4 181.1" x 73.0" x 65.4" // 105.9"

C-segment/Compact long 7 seat
Peugeot 5008 (not sold in the US) 182.7" x 72.4" x 64.6" // 111.8"
Nissan Rogue 183.0" x 72.4" x 66.9" // 106.5"
Mitsubishi Outlander 184.8" x 71.3" x 67.3" // 105.1"
VW Tiguan LWB 185.5" x 72.4" x 65.9" // 109.9" (also available with 5 seats)

Taos and Tiguan SWB is almost the same size but not quite.
Why do they need to have so many “sub-segments?” I feel like the market could be satisfied easily with far fewer.
 
Why do they need to have so many “sub-segments?” I feel like the market could be satisfied easily with far fewer.
SUV segments now just mirror the car segments.

C-short is something like Golf hatchback.

C-long is something like Golf wagon or Jetta sedan, depending on where you live.

Does anyone actually question the need for two different size compact VW car? It has been like that since MK1 when VW added a trunk to Golf and made it almost 2 feet longer. So why does two different size compact VW SUV bother you so much? :confused:
 
So why does two different size compact VW SUV bother you so much? :confused:
Because as a rule car enthusiasts like cars and hate CUVs, despite the fact that a Jetta 1.4T is probably no more fun to drive than this thing.
 
SUV segments now just mirror the car segments.

C-short is something like Golf hatchback.

C-long is something like Golf wagon or Jetta sedan, depending on where you live.

Does anyone actually question the need for two different size compact VW car? It has been like that since MK1 when VW added a trunk to Golf and made it almost 2 feet longer. So why does two different size compact VW SUV bother you so much? :confused:
I’m not bothered by it, I’m just curious why we need them all. When it comes to cross-shopping it can get quite tedious as to what actually competes with one another.

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Because as a rule car enthusiasts like cars and hate CUVs, despite the fact that a Jetta 1.4T is probably no more fun to drive than this thing.
Hopefully the new 1.5T with DSG that is going to make its way into both of these will be a better drive.
 
1. It's not a new vehicle. It's a mildly rebadged SEAT Ateca which has been for sale for 4 years. It's also sold as VW Tharu in China for the last 3 yerars, and as Jetta VS5 the last 2 years.

2. SWB Tiguan is still bigger than Taos. Not by much but SWB Tiguan is considered by VW as a premium vehicle for high income countries. Low income developing countries get Tharu/Taos.

Think of SWB Tiguan as fancy Renault and Taos as basic Dacia. The implication of where VW think USA belongs in the pantheon of nations is obvious :D

VW line up:
B short: T-Cross
B long: T-Roc
B coupe: Nivus
C short: Tharu/Taos
C long 5 seat: Tiguan/Tayron
C long 7 seat: Tiguan All Space
C coupe: Tiguan X/Tayron X
C EV: ID.4
D short: Atlas Sport
D long: Touareg
E: Atlas/Terramont
gotcha. i thought i was pretty smart for knowing about the SWB Tiguan, but didn't know about the SEAT!
 
1. It's not a new vehicle. It's a mildly rebadged SEAT Ateca which has been for sale for 4 years. It's also sold as VW Tharu in China for the last 3 yerars, and as Jetta VS5 the last 2 years.

2. SWB Tiguan is still bigger than Taos. Not by much but SWB Tiguan is considered by VW as a premium vehicle for high income countries. Low income developing countries get Tharu/Taos.

Think of SWB Tiguan as fancy Renault and Taos as basic Dacia. The implication of where VW think USA belongs in the pantheon of nations is obvious :D

VW line up:
B short: T-Cross
B long: T-Roc
B coupe: Nivus
C short: Tharu/Taos
C long 5 seat: Tiguan/Tayron
C long 7 seat: Tiguan All Space
C coupe: Tiguan X/Tayron X
C EV: ID.4
D short: Atlas Sport
D long: Touareg
E: Atlas/Terramont
+ T-Roc Cabriolet
(*for current line up)
 
I’m not bothered by it, I’m just curious why we need them all. When it comes to cross-shopping it can get quite tedious as to what actually competes with one another.
Gotcha... I don't make the rules, I just report them :D

I think the cross shopping tedium is true and this is why some car companies are holding back different variants. For example, Hyundai is selling a B-short (Venue) and while the Kia twin (Sonet) is not here. And the same on C-short, where Kia is selling Seltos but the Hyundai twin (Creta/ix25) is limited to only a few select markets.

VW is also doing that in the US by holding back standard size Tiguan or going smaller with T-Roc. But in Europe and China where VW has much larger market share, it is blanketing every segment, and not just with the VW brand... every compact and subcompact VW SUV on that list I made are also sold as SEAT/CUPRA/Jetta and Skoda.
 
Is it just me, or does anyone else here also welcome the return of fender flares on a VW?

I really think they're great for not scratching up the paint. I love the front bumper utilizing some of it too.


Edit: technically the first-gen Tiguan had them. But, I like that they're continuing its usage in more VW products.



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