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Hi guys!
I am doing this tutorial because every guide when i did conversion wasn't complete and had only about 60% information of what you actually need.
This will be short guide with everything you need to know.
some of the photos/ info are taken from this thread guide not very complete
so here is the parts that you actually need:
*A car with can bus system and DBW
*DSG gearbox of course!
😛

*Axles from the DSG car.
*The left one axle should be shortened by 1 centimeter / 0.39 inches to fit perfectly, (shortened mine 1,5 cm and its too much.)
*Starter
*Pilot bearing for flywheel
*Flywheel from TDI because it has 6 bolt pattern
*Automatic me7.5 ECU or someone to remap your original ecu to accept coding of automatic transmission, otherwise it wont run.
*DSG gear selector the smaller version that looks like this View attachment 125204

Dont get a shifter that looks like this because it wont fit !!!!
Because this one is 4 cm taller and overall beefier , the original centre console wont fit !
View attachment 125205


So lets start the conversion!


put a new pilot bearing in the crankshaft, and bolt it up to the spec "flywheel bolts: 60Nm + 90 degrees "
View attachment 125207

After that, attach the transmission to the engine. Again-absolutely bolt-on, every single bolt is in right place.

!!! FOR AWD CARS !!!
special bracket has to be made View attachment 125208

You might have issues with the right axle lenght
can't give you information because my car is fwd.
and for my seat leon 1m i had to shorten the left axle by 1cm.
right one didn't need any mods.

If you have an FWD car-then you don't need the bracket obviously.

This is how it looks in the Engine bay, You don't need to modify body frame or subframe-no welding, no cutting!
Even the 02M transmission mount bolt straight to the DQ250 bracket, but only on 2 bolts
View attachment 125209

Transmission cooling radiator hoses were connected to the heater core pipes-same like in the DSG-equipped cars. Ready to go!
Something like this :
View attachment 125211


Reverse signal
Good tuner will be able to put out a powering pin for taillights when you select a reverse gear (new beetle 2004 dsg used that )
i am not that good at remapping dsg yet , so i made a flange with microswitch so when reverse gear gets hit , it powers taillights.
Ecu issues
the manual version me7.5 wont work, the gearbox will not even turn on. auto ecu is a must.
Shifter issues
you will need to trim the gear selector tunnel hole a little bit, and you will need to drill 2 holes.
but overall its not that hard, but time consuming.
and this is why we use the smaller shifter not the bigger one, keep in mind that the bigger one is overall much bigger and 4 cm taller
LINK
this is how i ended it
interior shifter

Cluster SPEED ISSUE
this one is very easy to fix if you got kkl409.1 cable
all you need to do is download and get working vag eeprom programmer 1.19 read the eeprom of the cluster
put the eeprom in dashdumpedit program and select the eeprom. change speed source to abs as speed source.
upload the modified eeprom .this is it you got a working speedometer now, also you can enable needle sweep.

Remap
i remapped gearbox myself with kess v2 with bench cable
if you put petrol gearbox you wont need a remap, but for diesel one its a must, because its shift way too early
here is my first flashing attempt but the lambda isnt working :p ACCELERATION

the dsg when connected right will still have 2 DTCS electronic load controller and something else. but they dont make any difference.

GEARBOX ISSUES AND WHAT TO LOOK FOR
be sure to not get a mechatronic with a software number whichs ends AJ
because they can be remapped only once, and with very high risk.

be sure that your gearbox doesnt have any dumb faults that shouldnt be there when scanning with vcds before putting it in the car
be sure that measuring blocks and faults codes are scanning fast and not lagging, > personal experience will need to change mechatronic
be sure that dsg gearbox doesnt have any oil in the connect > personal experience will need to change mechatronic

Wiring
BE SURE TO CONNECT DSG / AND GEAR SELECTOR TO POWERTRAIN CAN BUS NOT A COMFORT ONE

Gear selector pinout
Pin 1 GROUND
Pin 2 Steering column unit ( signal when selector in P allowing the key to be removed) <- I connected this one to ignition
Pin 5 Illumination
Pin 7 Can high connect to powertrain can bus between ECU AND ABS!!!
Pin 8 Can low connect to powertrain can bus between ECU AND ABS!!!
Pin 9 12v Ignition power term 15 5a fuse box
Pin 10 12v constant power term 30 5a fuse box

DSG CONNECTOR
Pin 1 - K line
Pin 10 - Can high connect to powertrain can bus between ECU AND ABS!!!
PIN 11+ PIN 18 - 12 v constant power term 30 15A
Pin 13 12 V Ignition power term 15 5A (shared with gear selector pin 9)
Pin 15 Can low connect to powertrain can bus between ECU AND ABS!!!
PIN 16 + 19 GROUND
Pin 17 was left not connected
Elsawin diagrams.
imgur

GOODLUCK
ask any questions you have , will help!
you can contact me by r.juocys@gmail.com

View attachment 125217
Hi guys!
I am doing this tutorial because every guide when i did conversion wasn't complete and had only about 60% information of what you actually need.
This will be short guide with everything you need to know.
some of the photos/ info are taken from this thread guide not very complete
so here is the parts that you actually need:
*A car with can bus system and DBW
*DSG gearbox of course!
😛

*Axles from the DSG car.
*The left one axle should be shortened by 1 centimeter / 0.39 inches to fit perfectly, (shortened mine 1,5 cm and its too much.)
*Starter
*Pilot bearing for flywheel
*Flywheel from TDI because it has 6 bolt pattern
*Automatic me7.5 ECU or someone to remap your original ecu to accept coding of automatic transmission, otherwise it wont run.
*DSG gear selector the smaller version that looks like this View attachment 125204

Dont get a shifter that looks like this because it wont fit !!!!
Because this one is 4 cm taller and overall beefier , the original centre console wont fit !
View attachment 125205


So lets start the conversion!


put a new pilot bearing in the crankshaft, and bolt it up to the spec "flywheel bolts: 60Nm + 90 degrees "
View attachment 125207

After that, attach the transmission to the engine. Again-absolutely bolt-on, every single bolt is in right place.

!!! FOR AWD CARS !!!
special bracket has to be made View attachment 125208

You might have issues with the right axle lenght
can't give you information because my car is fwd.
and for my seat leon 1m i had to shorten the left axle by 1cm.
right one didn't need any mods.

If you have an FWD car-then you don't need the bracket obviously.

This is how it looks in the Engine bay, You don't need to modify body frame or subframe-no welding, no cutting!
Even the 02M transmission mount bolt straight to the DQ250 bracket, but only on 2 bolts
View attachment 125209

Transmission cooling radiator hoses were connected to the heater core pipes-same like in the DSG-equipped cars. Ready to go!
Something like this :
View attachment 125211


Reverse signal
Good tuner will be able to put out a powering pin for taillights when you select a reverse gear (new beetle 2004 dsg used that )
i am not that good at remapping dsg yet , so i made a flange with microswitch so when reverse gear gets hit , it powers taillights.
Ecu issues
the manual version me7.5 wont work, the gearbox will not even turn on. auto ecu is a must.
Shifter issues
you will need to trim the gear selector tunnel hole a little bit, and you will need to drill 2 holes.
but overall its not that hard, but time consuming.
and this is why we use the smaller shifter not the bigger one, keep in mind that the bigger one is overall much bigger and 4 cm taller
LINK
this is how i ended it
interior shifter

Cluster SPEED ISSUE
this one is very easy to fix if you got kkl409.1 cable
all you need to do is download and get working vag eeprom programmer 1.19 read the eeprom of the cluster
put the eeprom in dashdumpedit program and select the eeprom. change speed source to abs as speed source.
upload the modified eeprom .this is it you got a working speedometer now, also you can enable needle sweep.

Remap
i remapped gearbox myself with kess v2 with bench cable
if you put petrol gearbox you wont need a remap, but for diesel one its a must, because its shift way too early
here is my first flashing attempt but the lambda isnt working :p ACCELERATION

the dsg when connected right will still have 2 DTCS electronic load controller and something else. but they dont make any difference.

GEARBOX ISSUES AND WHAT TO LOOK FOR
be sure to not get a mechatronic with a software number whichs ends AJ
because they can be remapped only once, and with very high risk.

be sure that your gearbox doesnt have any dumb faults that shouldnt be there when scanning with vcds before putting it in the car
be sure that measuring blocks and faults codes are scanning fast and not lagging, > personal experience will need to change mechatronic
be sure that dsg gearbox doesnt have any oil in the connect > personal experience will need to change mechatronic

Wiring
BE SURE TO CONNECT DSG / AND GEAR SELECTOR TO POWERTRAIN CAN BUS NOT A COMFORT ONE

Gear selector pinout
Pin 1 GROUND
Pin 2 Steering column unit ( signal when selector in P allowing the key to be removed) <- I connected this one to ignition
Pin 5 Illumination
Pin 7 Can high connect to powertrain can bus between ECU AND ABS!!!
Pin 8 Can low connect to powertrain can bus between ECU AND ABS!!!
Pin 9 12v Ignition power term 15 5a fuse box
Pin 10 12v constant power term 30 5a fuse box

DSG CONNECTOR
Pin 1 - K line
Pin 10 - Can high connect to powertrain can bus between ECU AND ABS!!!
PIN 11+ PIN 18 - 12 v constant power term 30 15A
Pin 13 12 V Ignition power term 15 5A (shared with gear selector pin 9)
Pin 15 Can low connect to powertrain can bus between ECU AND ABS!!!
PIN 16 + 19 GROUND
Pin 17 was left not connected
Elsawin diagrams.
imgur

GOODLUCK
ask any questions you have , will help!
you can contact me by r.juocys@gmail.com

View attachment 125217


hello~~~~~


I contacted you after seeing "1.8T 20V with DSG FULL GUIDE/Tutorial/ step by step" you wrote.

I got a mission and I got a selector.

I have a few questions

For the Automatic me7.5 ECU mentioned in the guide, for example, can I use the tt front wheel auto ECU? Just killing the immobil?
Or is it possible to flash the auto ecu using mpps?

did u try cc left axle?~ ? for 1cm problem~

You said that you mapped with kess, can you share the file?

and clust problem~~~ can u help me~


And how did you solve the 1cm left axle?


I need help~
 
YESSS! I'm glad to have found your post about this project. Thanks!!

How does it drive? I've got a BEW Jetta with a dead auto. I'm considering a DSG swap or importing a 6 speed.
I was nervous considering how the electrical would work for the controller. Yours works nice!

Does your car have a tune? How much torque?
 
Thanks
I wanted it to be at the same height as the original mk4 tiptronic, so I lowered it a little more
View attachment 164633
Hello, I'm brazilian too and I've watched a video that shows a guy named Elder with a DSG swapped car, and I believe it's you: a white Golf MK4, 180 horsepower model, with DSG swap and an european interface.
Youtube Link
I could not find a way to send you a private message, so I will send an email here; rodacruzdemaltaolx@gmail.com
Te peço seu auxílio se for possível; por favor entre em contato. Grato
 
Discussion starter · #26 ·
hello~~~~~


I contacted you after seeing "1.8T 20V with DSG FULL GUIDE/Tutorial/ step by step" you wrote.

I got a mission and I got a selector.

I have a few questions

For the Automatic me7.5 ECU mentioned in the guide, for example, can I use the tt front wheel auto ECU? Just killing the immobil?
Or is it possible to flash the auto ecu using mpps?

did u try cc left axle?~ ? for 1cm problem~

You said that you mapped with kess, can you share the file?

and clust problem~~~ can u help me~


And how did you solve the 1cm left axle?


I need help~
For the Automatic me7.5 ECU mentioned in the guide, for example, can I use the tt front wheel auto ECU? Just killing the immobil? yes you can use it. i didnt killed immo its in eeprom, changed all the bytes too my previous immo
did u try cc left axle?~ ? for 1cm problem~ i got custom made axle
You said that you mapped with kess, can you share the file? all of them are different, i wont share the file because thats how i earn my bread, if you want remap you can contact me , they arent that expensive
and clust problem~~~ can u help me~ yes i can you can contact me on instagram Rokas_JJ

And how did you solve the 1cm left axle? got custom made axle.
 
Discussion starter · #27 ·
YESSS! I'm glad to have found your post about this project. Thanks!!

How does it drive? I've got a BEW Jetta with a dead auto. I'm considering a DSG swap or importing a 6 speed.
I was nervous considering how the electrical would work for the controller. Yours works nice!

Does your car have a tune? How much torque?
yes my car had a tune but never got it dynoed, so dont really know , i think it had around 240 hp?
 
Parabéns pelo Tutorial tenho um mk4 aqui no Brasil e também fiz a troca. O meu era manual, ecu 06a906032HP e funcionou tudo menos esp. Depois gravei o arquivo LT final do Automatico e o esp. Coloquei um relé para cortar a partida no pino 17, então ele não dará partida se estiver fora da posição P ou a NI gostaria de saber onde foi editado no .bin do Dsg para funcionar em luz reversa, se puder passe, é lógico que tenho Kessy e posso ler e editar, só não sei onde editar
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PPoderia Me passar seu contato sou do brasil e tambem quero fazer a teoca no meu a3
 
Here is my small contribution to this thread, a lightly tuned file for your DSG swap, FREE!
Peak load is 180 with target lambda of 0.84-0.82 and max advance of 17-18* max advance at full throttle.
CAN messages properly patched for DQ250 DSG transmission, VSS patched to read from ABS, immo off in flash, emissions deleted and hard cut rev limiter.
** Shoot me a pm and I can link the file**
 
Here is my small contribution to this thread, a lightly tuned file for your DSG swap, FREE!
Peak load is 180 with target lambda of 0.84-0.82 and max advance of 17-18* max advance at full throttle.
CAN messages properly patched for DQ250 DSG transmission, VSS patched to read from ABS, immo off in flash, emissions deleted and hard cut rev limiter.
** Shoot me a pm and I can link the file**
 
@UGTuner Very nice contribution to the community and will help many out, and hopefully myself in the future. Two thumbs ups and a 🍺 for you sir!
 
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