Re: Please post your SPL(DB) and what equipment you used (rknail)

140 DB with a PPI A600 Running two 10W6's at 3 Ohms. Which they were getting about 225W each. A PPI A204.2 Bridged to a set of MB Quart MB 3016.CX.

 

Re: Please post your SPL(DB) and what equipment you used (rknail)

130db on a new Termpro meter (around 3-6db lower than the older meters but more accurate)
using 1 boston 10.5lf in a 1.8cft sealed box
getting around 200wrms of a hertz amp
and it was in a Seat Cordoba


Modified by fuddbutter at 11:02 AM 9-23-2003

 

Re: Please post your SPL(DB) and what equipment you used (fuddbutter)

There we go, SPL #'s from all over the world got to love the internet.
Anyone else??

 

143Db with 2 Elemental design k15's with an avionixx 800.2 running it. They're sealed with 3 cubes each, but i'm gonna port them soon and that should give me a few db more. A person hit 152 ported with same setup but i think different amp so we'll see how that goes.

 

Re: (Hyperion)

Hyperion, What kind of car?
I really curious to see some #'s on MK3 Jetta's , I have tried many different setups in mine and this morning tried just about every box in my store and they all played just about as loud as the others except 1.
I tried 2 Viper 12" sealed and 2 Kicker 12L5 sealed. Both about the same, then I tried a ported box with 2 Viper 10" and wow what a difference.

From around 135 with the sealed boxes to 140 with the ported and smaller drivers. It all comes down to the natural cancellation problems with the shape of the MK3 Jetta's.
Anybody else?

 

Re: (rknail)

Quote, originally posted by rknail »

Hyperion, What kind of car? I really curious to see some #'s on MK3 Jetta's , I have tried many different setups in mine and this morning tried just about every box in my store and they all played just about as loud as the others except 1. I tried 2 Viper 12" sealed and 2 Kicker 12L5 sealed. Both about the same, then I tried a ported box with 2 Viper 10" and wow what a difference. From around 135 with the sealed boxes to 140 with the ported and smaller drivers. It all comes down to the natural cancellation problems with the shape of the MK3 Jetta's. Anybody else?

Actually FOr SPL it really comes down to Cabin Resonance, Port area, a One note wonder box. and a whole lot of power.

 

Re: (Non_Affiliated)

Yeah I realize that but I'm looking for more real world #'s.
You know more like typical in the trunk or hatch systems no walls or crazy can't drive the car stuff.
I think I might be happy with the 2 Viper 10.2 in the ported box I have in now.
It doesn't seem to suffer from the cancellation that the sealed boxes I tried had

 

Re: (rknail)

Quote, originally posted by rknail »

Yeah I realize that but I'm looking for more real world #'s. You know more like typical in the trunk or hatch systems no walls or crazy can't drive the car stuff. I think I might be happy with the 2 Viper 10.2 in the ported box I have in now. It doesn't seem to suffer from the cancellation that the sealed boxes I tried had

Well The 140 I hit I guess is about real world as it gets for a pair of 10's considering I built the box for SPLQ, i.e. Get loud, but still sound good, not a one note wonder yet still had good overall sound quality.

 

Re: (Non_Affiliated)

Gotta love hatchbacks, What subs and amp for the 140.

 

Re: (rknail)

140db.
3 Kaption 10" SPL with PG Titanium 400.2.

Gary

 

Throw in a transmission line box like my friend and hit 150 all day with one 12 and 100 watts. Oh it's only at one note though

 

Re: (Deplorable)

Thanks but I think I'll stick to something I can listen to as well, at least until I build my shop SPL vehicle ( Rabbit maybe or A2 Golf)

 

Re: (rknail)

Quote, originally posted by rknail »

Gotta love hatchbacks, What subs and amp for the 140.

I was running two JL 10W6's in a 1.15 CU. Ft.box Ported to around 35 HZ. Running a PPI A600. It was in my Old '80 Accord. I have yet to do the install into my Corrado. I am debating ripping out the rear seats, and making a Custome amp rack. Which will allow for a box that won't take up all my hatch area. But I am just having issues bringing my self to tear into the car. That And I have been fighting to figure out where the EA, and X-over will go.

 

Re: (Deplorable)

Quote, originally posted by Deplorable »

Throw in a transmission line box like my friend and hit 150 all day with one 12 and 100 watts. Oh it's only at one note though

Umm, that's impossible, not to call you a lier but you NEED more power to hit 150 db. It is absolutly impossibly to hit that sortof SPL with 100 watts. Unless the box was 50 cubic feet with a 30 foot long port and the mic was inside the box.

 

1996 golf GL 4 door baby lol. All my trunk is gone, i cannot fit anything else in there lol

 

Re: (Hyperion)

Have you noticed it's all been hatchbacks so far, no Jettas.
From my own experience i can tell you Jettas suck for SPL, Ive been trying to get the best of both worlds for a long time and think I finally got the right setup with these Viper 10"s in the ported box.

 

Re: (rknail)

I have a 97 Jetta... Once it gets done.. I will post my numbers on it. I hope to have something decent to... http://****************.com/smile/emthup.gif

That was a pic before all the hard work got started..
edit.. added pic.



Modified by George@DUBWARS at 10:15 PM 9-25-2003

 

Re: (rknail)

2 x 12l7 and a D2 in a hatch shoud be good for 140db
or 2 x DD 9512's and 2 x Audison Vrx 1.500's

 

Re: (George@DUBWARS)

Quote, originally posted by George@DUBWARS »

I have a 97 Jetta... Once it gets done.. I will post my numbers on it. I hope to have something decent to... http://****************.com/smile/emthup.gif That was a pic before all the hard work got started.. edit.. added pic. Modified by George@DUBWARS at 10:15 PM 9-25-2003

Hey, what subs are those, the look to be pretty mean lol.

 

Re: (Hyperion)

They are Ample Audio Subs.. The company list them as 10's, but for some strange reason, they make them as 11's?? 40lbs each.. More weight than I originally wanted in a car I occasionally did open-track events in..

 

Re: (George@DUBWARS)

I hope you don't end up like I did. I spent a lot of money and time on a custom fiberglass box for 1 S15L7 Kicker Solobaric in the spare tire well firing staright up. It would knock stuff off the garage walls as long as the trunk was open, shut the trunk and it disappeared (back to the cancellation thing). I hope yours goes well George, keep me updated.
Oh yeah looks kick azz so far!!

 

Re: (rknail)

I am new to installs (& audio)... SO I dunno what a lot actually is compared to what I spent..
I paid 3k for the complete install of everything (which was a HUGE deal to me).. Worked out a side deal with the installer... and I got sponsored by Ample Audio.. So you know how that goes..
Oh.. and I dont have back seats....

 

Re: (George@DUBWARS)

back in 96-98 when I was competing, I had a 92 Eagle Talon with 2 12" Orion XTR subs and a Soundstream Refference 200 Running 1ohm mono. I was running 2 of thoes amps and their total power rating was 12.5 Watts-per-channel. So I had a total or 50 watts rms. This car played 145db all day long. I was also running An AudioControl EQL and 4XS which helped out as well. This car took 6th in my class at the '98 USAC finals.
Im looking foward to getting back into car audio next year with my A2 GTI. I have all winter to work on the car to be ready in the spring

 

What size of box did you use? Ported/Sealed? If ported, to what? what frequency did you play? You would have to have a pretty damn big box to hit 145 with 50rms...

 

Re: (Hyperion)

Quote, originally posted by Hyperion »

What size of box did you use? Ported/Sealed? If ported, to what? what frequency did you play? You would have to have a pretty damn big box to hit 145 with 50rms...

I was using a sealed 1 Cubic ft per side box. This was with a 60-65hz tone. At 1ohm mono, the soundstream Refference 200 amp puts out around 300 watts of RMS power. Man I miss that stereo. The new one is in the works

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