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Push Button Start vs. Twisting A Key

3.1K views 31 replies 27 participants last post by  DanielAdams  
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Could someone please explain the allure of the push button starters that are found more commonly on exclusive and/or sports cars? The only car that I have driven with a push button starter is the Honda S2000, but I kind of missed the visceral feel of twisting a key. Is there anything really special about it besides its historical advantages in racing? It seems as if the key is going the way of the dinosaurs. At least there is a little skill involved using key to get a car started, as opposed to a button, right?
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Re: Push Button Start vs. Twisting A Key (Euro Dude)

i have one... simply becuase the button was 2 bucks and the new ignition switch for my corrado was MUCH MUCH MORE... plus it was MUCH MUCH easier to install than the new ignition switch
mines not one of the red ones tho... mine is just a chromed button.. its mounted in a blank on the dash


[Modified by VwG60Kid, 2:06 AM 12-11-2002]
 
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Re: Push Button Start vs. Twisting A Key (PineappleMonkey)

quote:[HR][/HR]^^It's missing the reset button
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you just turn the dial in the armrest...
left - left - right - left - right - right - left
the hold down the brake and press the rear window down button and the left turn signal for two seconds.. then tap you heels together and honk the horn twice...
simple as that
 
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Re: Push Button Start vs. Twisting A Key (VwG60Kid)

quote:[HR][/HR]
you just turn the dial in the armrest...
left - left - right - left - right - right - left
the hold down the brake and press the rear window down button and the left turn signal for two seconds.. then tap you heels together and honk the horn twice...
simple as that[HR][/HR]​
i just tried it on my 7 series and it didn't work
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[Modified by billgti, 10:04 AM 12-11-2002]
 
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Re: Push Button Start vs. Twisting A Key (passaturbo)

quote:[HR][/HR]Do you have the latest available upgrade?
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I thought you hit the horn once, turned the windshield wipers to the first setting and flashed the brights, that is the same as the three finger salute, Control/alt/delete
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Re: Push Button Start vs. Twisting A Key (DrewSRX)

push button starters are easier to replace and troubleshoot compared to ignition switches. ask me how i know
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Re: Push Button Start vs. Twisting A Key (Obin Robinson)

quote:[HR][/HR]push button starters are easier to replace and troubleshoot compared to ignition switches. ask me how i know
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obin[HR][/HR]​
You didn't ask me how I know, but I will tell you anyway!
When the ignition part of the key switch in my Rabbit wore out, I jerryrigged a lamp cord ignition through my ashtray. I could get the engine to turn by toughing the plug with any metal object.
If someone as mechanically inept as I am could figure this out, a real push button must be stupidly simple to service.
 
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Re: Push Button Start vs. Twisting A Key (Fabolous)

I push Function button on mine, and my car starts with me in or out of the car.
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Re: Push Button Start vs. Twisting A Key (DrewSRX)

quote:[HR][/HR]Could someone please explain the allure of the push button starters that are found more commonly on exclusive and/or sports cars? The only car that I have driven with a push button starter is the Honda S2000[HR][/HR]​
The only vehicles I've driven with starter buttons are military cargo trucks: 2&1/2 ton & 5 ton. The only thing sporty about them is the 5 speed transmission and the bronze puck clutch. So, no starter buttons aren't only found on sporty cars. And at $49k for a Deuce, it's definatly not only expensive ones. I'd say it's conspicuous consumption, or engineers to lazy to build a better key switch.
 
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Re: Push Button Start vs. Twisting A Key (kimosullivan)

Car keys are going the way of the drum brake.
Most higher-end luxury cars don't really have a "key," per se, but an encoded microchip shaped like a key or a key fob. To see what I mean, take a look at the "key" on any post-94 Jaguar, or the fobs on the new Saab 9-3 or any new Mercedes. The way they all work is that you put the key/keyfob into some sort of slot and twist it, thereby triggering a sensor in the car to start the engine. The thing is that the second and third steps of putting something into a slot and twisting it is unnecessary--you could just as easily have it wired so that the car knows when the trigger sensor is located within the car, and that if someone presses a start button, it's OK to start the engine. That is how, for example, the new system used in Renaults works.
The only reason the other systems still require that "insert and twist" is to comfort the owner, and to mollify the litigation happy folks in the States.
 
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Re: Push Button Start vs. Twisting A Key (VwG60Kid)

quote:[HR][/HR]^^It's missing the reset button
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you just turn the dial in the armrest...
left - left - right - left - right - right - left
the hold down the brake and press the rear window down button and the left turn signal for two seconds.. then tap you heels together and honk the horn twice...
simple as that[HR][/HR]​
No, no, no.
It's up-up, down-down, left-right, left-right, B, A, Start.
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Re: Push Button Start vs. Twisting A Key (Sortafast)

quote:[HR][/HR]No, no, no.
It's up-up, down-down, left-right, left-right, B, A, Start.
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I thought having the 7-series computer reset involves taking the car to a "compacting specialist".