Mods:
APR Tuned, Stage 1
APR Intake

While accelerating out of the apex of a flyover onto the tollway in 5th approaching WOT (and the speed limit), when I shifted to 6th the car shook once, the EPC light came on, and I could no longer shift, accelerate, or maintain speed. No blinking, no yellow engine light that I can recall.

Pulling off on the side of the tollway the car was running like someone tore off several vacuum lines (very rough idle, shaking). Shutdown and restart and the problem was gone.



Any clues on what the hell happened to my car today?

For what it's worth, I've had another incident occur two or three times when at the top of 1st near redline before shifting to 2nd, where the car cuts all power and snaps me into my seatbelt (could be related).

Any input is appreciated

I think there has been mention of accelereating in higher gears, no matter of tune or not, that this situation has happened. I'm sure you will get some good info on this by the end of the day.

 

I think there has been mention of accelereating in higher gears, no matter of tune or not, that this situation has happened.....

And you really believe that? VW would not be selling the car to customers if it did it OEM.

 

Thanks Vegas. When I searched by the problem description the lead that came up most was overboost/boost spike on shift from 5->6, but the codes don't seem to reflect that. Searching by the codes yielded next to nothing.

 

This same thing happened to me a couple times when I first went stage 1. Now recently I did a catless downpipe and catback. I have been running them for like 2 weeks with no problems (except a CEL for the cat). Now last night my car went in limp mode twice while out driving. Got home and pulled the codes and had basically the same codes as you. Being that my car threw the same codes before the downpipe I don't think they're related, but I am now again very interested in what can cause this.

 

How do you pass a NY emissions inspection without the catalytic converter?

 

That happened to me a dozen times at high speeds. I had the same codes and epc light. Apr was no help but when i flashed to stage 2 it went away. All of their stage 1 tunes on my car did the same thing. Goodluck

 

This is a known issue to APR

Mk7 R, APR Stage 1, VWR R600 Intake, GFB DV+

Basically the same set of codes (though my initial code was an inconsistent signal from the ECU, then the cam codes) has been happening to me. I've had my R tuned since July 3 without a problem. But about a month ago now, as soon as we had our first cool morning in Northern Virginia, I dumped into limp mode while accelerating hard to pass someone. This issue is something that I have been able to repeat multiple times. It is apparently a known "overboost" issue on the APR Stage 1 tune.

The circumstances when this triggers have all been very nearly identical:
Air temperature around 70 degrees, mildly humid, car at running temperature, going a steady rate of speed between 45-55 mph. I step on the gas, maybe 3/4 throttle to pass or something. I get maybe about 2-3 seconds of good acceleration and boost. Then the car dumps itself into limp mode with a rough idle. I pull over, shut the car off, restart it, and it's normal again.

What NGP Racing in Lorton, VA (who did my tune) said is that APR is receiving matching reports with these symptoms from a number of Mk7 R and S3 owners under hard acceleration at speed. They have been looking into the prtoblem, but had not been able to reproduce the problem themselves while recording data I was told.

Three Mondays back, I went in to NGP, they hooked up APR's logging system, and I was able to dump the car for them while they were logging. NGP sent the log to APR engineering, who is apparently still reviewing to determine a permanent solution.

In the meanwhile, NGP said a temporary solution is that they can reflash my R to the low output Stage 1 tune instead of the high output, and that should eliminate the issue. That said, I told them I would keep the car as is in case they need me to try to reproduce again for them for additional data.

I will try to remember to check back in and follow up once I hear from NGP and APR about a permanent fix/reflash.

 

Mk7 R, APR Stage 1, VWR R600 Intake, GFB DV+

Basically the same set of codes (though my initial code was an inconsistent signal from the ECU, then the cam codes) has been happening to me. I've had my R tuned since July 3 without a problem. But about a month ago now, as soon as we had our first cool morning in Northern Virginia, I dumped into limp mode while accelerating hard to pass someone. This issue is something that I have been able to repeat multiple times. It is apparently a known "overboost" issue on the APR Stage 1 tune.

The circumstances when this triggers have all been very nearly identical:
Air temperature around 70 degrees, mildly humid, car at running temperature, going a steady rate of speed between 45-55 mph. I step on the gas, maybe 3/4 throttle to pass or something. I get maybe about 2-3 seconds of good acceleration and boost. Then the car dumps itself into limp mode with a rough idle. I pull over, shut the car off, restart it, and it's normal again.

What NGP Racing in Lorton, VA (who did my tune) said is that APR is receiving matching reports with these symptoms from a number of Mk7 R and S3 owners under hard acceleration at speed. They have been looking into the prtoblem, but had not been able to reproduce the problem themselves while recording data I was told.

Three Mondays back, I went in to NGP, they hooked up APR's logging system, and I was able to dump the car for them while they were logging. NGP sent the log to APR engineering, who is apparently still reviewing to determine a permanent solution.

In the meanwhile, NGP said a temporary solution is that they can reflash my R to the low output Stage 1 tune instead of the high output, and that should eliminate the issue. That said, I told them I would keep the car as is in case they need me to try to reproduce again for them for additional data.

I will try to remember to check back in and follow up once I hear from NGP and APR about a permanent fix/reflash.

Checking back in. Still no solution from APR, but according to NGP, I am far from the only one reporting this issue to them (as mentioned previously). Here's hoping the permanent solution is pending soon.

And a question @cantgetenoughmk7r: You say that you re not having any issues with the Stage 2 tune? Just curious, as I m starting to feel like that may just be my "solution" to this problem.

 

Not trying to be a troll, but guess which tuner is the king of limp mode? Lol..
Pretty sad stage 1 doing it.

 

I haven't hit limp mode since I had the stage 1.1 update months ago. I am now stage 2. So.... If they were the king that's great... but so far so good on my end. :beer:

 

Meh... new platform, new engine, new tune... I'd probably be more surprised if it were flawless right out of the gate.

And for me, the choices were basically an APR shop an hour away or a Unitronic shop two hours away. I opted for the closer for future service needs.

 

I also received the same codes yesterday, going into limp mode. I was on a highway going up a large bridge doing around 90mph. I went to make a pass and floored it in 5th gear. About 2 seconds after hitting boost the car goes into limp mode. By the time I got to the top of the bridge, I was doing 30mph, and coasted down to the bottom. Cars travel at a very high rate of speed on this road, and there is no shoulder, so unfortunately I did not feel safe stopping to reset, especially since it was night time.

Shut the car off, and back on, and everything was back to normal. Waiting for a second response from APR. The initial response I received suggested that my spark plugs may have gone bad......

I hope they can sort this out with an update soon.

 

I hope you guys with APR get this figured out. I've had GIAC stage 1 since the day it was released in the states and fortunately I have not hit limp mode once.

 

Thanks, I'm sure it will get squared away quickly. I never expect everything to be perfect, and they will always learn things with a new engine (since there were some differences with the US spec R vs EU).

This is my 3rd 2.0T with APR software, and I'll continue to be a customer of theirs for years to come.

 

i had this happen to me this morning with UM stage 1. waiting to hear back from them.

was merging onto a highway in 3rd gear

EDIT: adding a downpipe caused the epc light. so if you add a downpipe with um stage 1 get the stage 2 file asap

 

 

Can you do a full VCDS autoscan of the car and post that for more information?

 

I went searching for this as its been happening on my car and to my surprise came across this thread. Getting the P11A6 in my S3, seems to happen under same situation as others (usually highway speed, give it some gas 3/4-full throttle and after 2-3 seconds it throws itself into limp mode, especially in 5th gear). My P3 gauge isn't showing overboost, but it could certainly be happening. Not really sure what the issue is. Note I'm on UM stage 2 with a down pipe. I know when I first went stage 2 it was doing this, but that as due to lag spikes. However, I wasn't getting that fault code. Hoping to hear some updates about this soon!

 

Can you post a VCDS scan showing the all fault codes that are present?

 

Eurodyne 1.5 tuned. Similar limp mode occurrence. Eurodyne was not very helpful and blamed it on my car, not the tune.

Limp mode occurs when going full throttle from 80 mph when traveling up an incline. At about 100mph it goes into limp mode exactly as op described. It has not happened on the highway on relative flat roads, but I don't commonly floor my car on the highway when already going 80mph, so it may.

Here are the codes that I got:
5138: ECM/PCM Processor P0606
15396: Cam Shaft Actuator A Cylinder 2 Range/Performance P11A6
15414: Cam Shaft Actuator B Cylinder 1 Range/Performance P11A4
15418: Cam Shaft Actuator B Cylinder 3 Range/Performance P11AC

 

The first code should read 15138. This code is 100% the result of an error in the Eurodyne calibration. The cam codes are the result of the ECU reset caused by the first fault code, and are not related to an actual problem with the cam actuators.

 

Any word back from APR on the reflash availability?

This has happened to me about 5 times now, always at the worst possible time (merging into high speed traffic, or heading up an on-ramp onto a tollway that doesn't have another exit for several miles). I'm about ready to dump APR's stage 1 and go back to stock before it gets me killed... It's a damn shame, my wife's Mk6 GTI has been on APR Stage 1 software for 3 years without a single issue.

 

I just experienced my first limp mode tonight going 70+ on I-35. I'm still in my 30 day purchase period and seriously considering whether or not I keep this tune it APR hasn't found a fix after all this time.

 

I'm at stage II + dsg tune and my car has gone limp only once early on a spirited acceleration on the thruway. That was a couple months ago. Been fine ever since. :beer:

 

The most recent thing I've heard from APR (through my tuner) on December 11 was:

"Justin replied: Benji, Calibration is still working on that revision for the Golf R and S3 cars that are running into EPC issues. They’ve made several changes already and we’re getting there. Thanks, Justin, Solution Provider"

I'm sure the flash update got de-prioritized during the Holiday new product rush, since they actually make money selling those vs developing the re-flash. Here's hoping it will get some priority again now. Lord knows, I am sick and tired of waiting.

 

I read on another thread (http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthre...40742-APR-Presents-the-North-American-MK7-Golf-R-amp-MK3-S3-ECU-Upgrade!/page39) and checked with my local APR dealer (NGP Racing in Virginia). Apparently APR quietly released an upgraded v2 for the Stage 1 Golf R/S3 tune that I'm told is the long-awaited limp mode fix. I'll be making an appointment for a re-flash as soon as I can. About damned time! I'll let you all know if I learn more (e.g., if it's just the limp mode fix as I read or includes other changes).

 

Happens to me too with United Motorsport stage 2. Replaced both of those actuators and it still happens so I think it's a tune issue.

 

The Cam codes are a side-effect of the EPC issue, and are not an indication of an actual problem with the actuators. I'd contact your UM dealer for an update. When was your car flashed/last updated?

 

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23.12.2015 19:56
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18
$ 12
$ 65
01100101

Ability to flash :
Unknown

System name :
AirbagVW20

ASAM base version :
BV_AirbaUDS

ASAM 2D/ODX data set :
EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X

ASAM 2D/ODX data set version :
002144

ASAM/ODX control module version being used :
EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X_002

Target data container :
5G0003V____

Version of the target data container :
0121

Equipment code :
FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF

System abbreviation :
J234
Address : 0055 System name : 55 - Automatic vertical headlight aim control Log versions : UDS/ISOTP ( Ereignisse : 0 )
-Identification:

Hardware part number :
7P6907357A

Part number :
7P6907357D

Hardware version number :
H07

Software version number :
0090

Production date :
25.09.2015

Coding :
-
Index
Byte
Value (hex)
Value (bin)
1
$ 1
$ 02
00000010
2
$ 2
$ 22
00100010
3
$ 3
$ 02
00000010
4
$ 4
$ 00
00000000
5
$ 5
$ 0B
00001011
6
$ 6
$ 00
00000000
7
$ 7
$ 04
00000100
8
$ 8
$ 00
00000000

Ability to flash :
Unknown

System name :
AFS-ECU

ASAM base version :
BV_HeadlRegulUDS

ASAM 2D/ODX data set :
EV_HeadlRegulVWAFSMQB

ASAM 2D/ODX data set version :
001120

ASAM/ODX control module version being used :
EV_HeadlRegulVWAFSMQB_001

Target data container :
V03935205NP

Version of the target data container :
0001

Equipment code :
FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF

System abbreviation :
J745
Address : 0075 System name : 75 - Emergency call module & comm. unit Log versions : UDS/ISOTP ( Ereignisse : 1 )
-Identification:

Hardware part number :
5QE035285A

Part number :
5QE035285A

Hardware version number :
007

Software version number :
0568

Production date :
16.09.2015

Coding :
-
Index
Byte
Value (hex)
Value (bin)
1
$ 1
$ 02
00000010
2
$ 2
$ 73
01110011
3
$ 3
$ 00
00000000
4
$ 4
$ 02
00000010
5
$ 5
$ C2
11000010
6
$ 6
$ 82
10000010
7
$ 7
$ 1A
00011010
8
$ 8
$ 01
00000001
9
$ 9
$ 7F
01111111
10
$ A
$ 1E
00011110
11
$ B
$ 06
00000110
12
$ C
$ 02
00000010
13
$ D
$ 00
00000000
14
$ E
$ 00
00000000

Ability to flash :
Unknown

System name :
OCULowMQBUS

ASAM base version :
BV_TelemCommuUnitUDS

ASAM 2D/ODX data set :
EV_OCULowMQB

ASAM 2D/ODX data set version :
001006

ASAM/ODX control module version being used :
EV_OCULowMQB_001

Target data container :
V03935221QP

Version of the target data container :
0001

Equipment code :
FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF

System abbreviation :
J949
-DTC memory entries:

DTC memory entry


Number :
B149AF0: Mobile Online services Vehicle state report

Error type 2 :
passive/sporadic

Symptom :
13636864

Status :
00001000
-Standard ambient conditions:

Date :
12/10/15

Time :
12:33:54 PM

Mileage (DTC) :
3044

Priority :
7

Frequency counter :
1

Elimination counter / driving cycle :
148
Address : 0017 System name : 17 - Instrument cluster/immobilizer Log versions : UDS/ISOTP ( Ereignisse : 0 )
-Identification:

Hardware part number :
5G1920858A

Part number :
5G1920858A

Hardware version number :
303

Software version number :
6420

Production date :
28.09.2015

Coding :
-
Index
Byte
Value (hex)
Value (bin)
1
$ 1
$ 0B
00001011
2
$ 2
$ AD
10101101
3
$ 3
$ 08
00001000
4
$ 4
$ 12
00010010
5
$ 5
$ 3B
00111011
6
$ 6
$ 80
10000000
7
$ 7
$ CF
11001111
8
$ 8
$ 05
00000101
9
$ 9
$ 02
00000010
10
$ A
$ 08
00001000
11
$ B
$ 6A
01101010
12
$ C
$ 00
00000000
13
$ D
$ 14
00010100
14
$ E
$ 00
00000000
15
$ F
$ 00
00000000
16
$ 10
$ 00
00000000
17
$ 11
$ 00
00000000
18
$ 12
$ 00
00000000
19
$ 13
$ 00
00000000
20
$ 14
$ 00
00000000

Ability to flash :
Unknown

System name :
KOMBI

ASAM base version :
BV_DashBoardUDS

ASAM 2D/ODX data set :
EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB

ASAM 2D/ODX data set version :
009046

ASAM/ODX control module version being used :
EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB_009

Target data container :
-----------

Version of the target data container :
----

Equipment code :
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

System abbreviation :
J285
Address : 0047 System name : 47 - Sound system Log versions : UDS/ISOTP ( Ereignisse : 0 )
-Identification:

Hardware part number :
5Q0035456

Part number :
5Q0035456

Hardware version number :
H20

Software version number :
0130

Production date :
21.07.2015

Coding :
-
Index
Byte
Value (hex)
Value (bin)
1
$ 1
$ 22
00100010
2
$ 2
$ 00
00000000
3
$ 3
$ 00
00000000
4
$ 4
$ 00
00000000
5
$ 5
$ 00
00000000
6
$ 6
$ AA
10101010
7
$ 7
$ AA
10101010
8
$ 8
$ AA
10101010
9
$ 9
$ 00
00000000
10
$ A
$ 00
00000000
11
$ B
$ 00
00000000
12
$ C
$ 00
00000000
13
$ D
$ 00
00000000
14
$ E
$ 00
00000000

Ability to flash :
Unknown

System name :
MIB2_lite_amp

ASAM base version :
BV_SoundSysteUDS

ASAM 2D/ODX data set :
EV_AMPMst12C1Gen2ALPI

ASAM 2D/ODX data set version :
001003

ASAM/ODX control module version being used :
EV_AMPMst12C1Gen2ALPI_001

Target data container :
5G0050v____

Version of the target data container :
2011

Equipment code :
FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF

System abbreviation :
J525
Address : 00B7 System name : B7 - Access/Start system interface Log versions : UDS/ISOTP ( Ereignisse : 0 )
-Identification:

Hardware part number :
5Q0959435

Part number :
5Q0959435A

Hardware version number :
021

Software version number :
0604

Production date :
23.09.2015

Coding :
-
Index
Byte
Value (hex)
Value (bin)
1
$ 1
$ 03
00000011
2
$ 2
$ 0C
00001100
3
$ 3
$ 0C
00001100

Ability to flash :
Unknown

System name :
VWKESSYMQB

ASAM base version :
BV_AccesStartInterUDS

ASAM 2D/ODX data set :
EV_KessyHellaMQBAB

ASAM 2D/ODX data set version :
002011

ASAM/ODX control module version being used :
EV_KessyHellaMQBAB_002

Target data container :
V03935197YW

Version of the target data container :
0001

Equipment code :
FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF

System abbreviation :
J518
Address : 0016 System name : 16 - Steering column electronics Log versions : UDS/ISOTP ( Ereignisse : 0 )
-Identification:

Hardware part number :
5Q0953549E

Part number :
5Q0953507HL

Hardware version number :
003

Software version number :
0110

Production date :
23.09.2015

Coding :
-
Index
Byte
Value (hex)
Value (bin)
1
$ 1
$ 04
00000100
2
$ 2
$ 00
00000000

Ability to flash :
Unknown

System name :
Lenks. Modul

ASAM base version :
BV_SteerColumElectUDS

ASAM 2D/ODX data set :
EV_SMLSKLOMQB

ASAM 2D/ODX data set version :
017001

ASAM/ODX control module version being used :
EV_SMLSKLOMQB_017

Target data container :
-----------

Version of the target data container :
----

Equipment code :
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

System abbreviation :
J527
Address : 0008 System name : 08 - A/C/heating electronics (Climatronic) Log versions : UDS/ISOTP ( Ereignisse : 0 )
-Identification:

Hardware part number :
5G0907044BD

Part number :
5G0907044BD

Hardware version number :
H03

Software version number :
1001

Production date :
02.10.2015

Coding :
-
Index
Byte
Value (hex)
Value (bin)
1
$ 1
$ 00
00000000
2
$ 2
$ 02
00000010
3
$ 3
$ 00
00000000
4
$ 4
$ 04
00000100
5
$ 5
$ 20
00100000
6
$ 6
$ 01
00000001
7
$ 7
$ 00
00000000
8
$ 8
$ 00
00000000
9
$ 9
$ 00
00000000
10
$ A
$ 05
00000101
11
$ B
$ 00
00000000
12
$ C
$ 00
00000000
13
$ D
$ 12
00010010
14
$ E
$ 11
00010001
15
$ F
$ 14
00010100
16
$ 10
$ 02
00000010

Ability to flash :
Unknown

System name :
Climatronic

ASAM base version :
BV_AirCondiUDS

ASAM 2D/ODX data set :
EV_ACClimaBHBVW37X

ASAM 2D/ODX data set version :
004131

ASAM/ODX control module version being used :
EV_ACClimaBHBVW37X_004

Target data container :
-----------

Version of the target data container :
0000

Equipment code :
FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF

System abbreviation :
J255
Address : 0009 System name : 09 - Electronic central electronics Log versions : UDS/ISOTP ( Ereignisse : 0 )
-Identification:

Hardware part number :
5Q0937085AF

Part number :
5Q0937085AJ

Hardware version number :
H24

Software version number :
0175

Production date :
22.09.2015

Coding :
-
Index
Byte
Value (hex)
Value (bin)
1
$ 1
$ 00
00000000
2
$ 2
$ 01
00000001
3
$ 3
$ 0A
00001010
4
$ 4
$ 46
01000110
5
$ 5
$ C0
11000000
6
$ 6
$ 41
01000001
7
$ 7
$ A2
10100010
8
$ 8
$ E1
11100001
9
$ 9
$ 69
01101001
10
$ A
$ E4
11100100
11
$ B
$ 40
01000000
12
$ C
$ 00
00000000
13
$ D
$ 09
00001001
14
$ E
$ 1C
00011100
15
$ F
$ 07
00000111
16
$ 10
$ 20
00100000
17
$ 11
$ 18
00011000
18
$ 12
$ 00
00000000
19
$ 13
$ 00
00000000
20
$ 14
$ 00
00000000
21
$ 15
$ 00
00000000
22
$ 16
$ 00
00000000
23
$ 17
$ 00
00000000
24
$ 18
$ 00
00000000
25
$ 19
$ 00
00000000
26
$ 1A
$ 00
00000000
27
$ 1B
$ 00
00000000
28
$ 1C
$ 00
00000000
29
$ 1D
$ 00
00000000
30
$ 1E
$ 00
00000000

Ability to flash :
Unknown

System name :
BCM MQBAB HNA

ASAM base version :
BV_CentrElectUDS

ASAM 2D/ODX data set :
EV_BCMMQB

ASAM 2D/ODX data set version :
015001

ASAM/ODX control module version being used :
EV_BCMMQB_015

Target data container :
V03935222AW

Version of the target data container :
0001

Equipment code :
FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF

System abbreviation :
J519
Address : 0019 System name : 19 - Diagnostic interface for data bus Log versions : UDS/ISOTP ( Ereignisse : 0 )
-Identification:

Hardware part number :
5Q0907530F

Part number :
5Q0907530AF

Hardware version number :
128

Software version number :
1223

Production date :
05.09.2015

Coding :
-
Index
Byte
Value (hex)
Value (bin)
1
$ 1
$ 01
00000001
2
$ 2
$ 01
00000001
3
$ 3
$ 00
00000000
4
$ 4
$ 08
00001000
5
$ 5
$ 30
00110000
6
$ 6
$ 08
00001000
7
$ 7
$ 59
01011001
8
$ 8
$ 00
00000000
9
$ 9
$ FB
11111011
10
$ A
$ 00
00000000
11
$ B
$ 02
00000010
12
$ C
$ 2A
00101010
13
$ D
$ 88
10001000
14
$ E
$ 0F
00001111
15
$ F
$ 00
00000000
16
$ 10
$ 00
00000000
17
$ 11
$ 00
00000000
18
$ 12
$ 01
00000001
19
$ 13
$ 05
00000101
20
$ 14
$ 00
00000000
21
$ 15
$ 00
00000000
22
$ 16
$ 00
00000000
23
$ 17
$ 00
00000000
24
$ 18
$ 00
00000000
25
$ 19
$ 00
00000000
26
$ 1A
$ 00
00000000
27
$ 1B
$ 00
00000000
28
$ 1C
$ 00
00000000
29
$ 1D
$ 00
00000000
30
$ 1E
$ 00
00000000

Ability to flash :
Unknown

System name :
GW MQB High

ASAM base version :
BV_GatewUDS

ASAM 2D/ODX data set :
EV_GatewLear

ASAM 2D/ODX data set version :
013020

ASAM/ODX control module version being used :
EV_GatewLear_013

Target data container :
V03935223TH

Version of the target data container :
0001

Equipment code :
FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF

System abbreviation :
J533
Address : 00A9 System name : A9 - Structure-borne sound actuator Log versions : UDS/ISOTP ( Ereignisse : 0 )
-Identification:

Hardware part number :
4H0907159A

Part number :
5G0907159D

Hardware version number :
H07

Software version number :
0001

Production date :
12.08.2015

Coding :
-
Index
Byte
Value (hex)
Value (bin)
1
$ 1
$ 00
00000000
2
$ 2
$ 00
00000000
3
$ 3
$ 00
00000000

Ability to flash :
Unknown

System name :
SAS-GEN 2

ASAM base version :
BV_ActuaForStrucBorneSoundUDS

ASAM 2D/ODX data set :
EV_SoundActuaGen2AU64X

ASAM 2D/ODX data set version :
003010

ASAM/ODX control module version being used :
EV_SoundActuaGen2AU64X_003

Target data container :
-----------

Equipment code :
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

System abbreviation :
J869
Address : 002B System name : 2B - Steering column lock Log versions : UDS/ISOTP ( Ereignisse : 0 )
-Identification:

Hardware part number :
5Q0905861A

Part number :
5Q0905861A

Hardware version number :
H01

Software version number :
0120

Production date :
24.09.2015

Coding :
-
Index
Byte
Value (hex)
Value (bin)
1
$ 1
$ 55
01010101
2
$ 2
$ 00
00000000
3
$ 3
$ 00
00000000
4
$ 4
$ 00
00000000
5
$ 5
$ 00
00000000
6
$ 6
$ 00
00000000
7
$ 7
$ 00
00000000
8
$ 8
$ 00
00000000

Ability to flash :
Unknown

System name :
ELV-MQBA

ASAM base version :
BV_SteerColumLockiUDS

ASAM 2D/ODX data set :
EV_ELVMarquMQB

ASAM 2D/ODX data set version :
004111

ASAM/ODX control module version being used :
EV_ELVMarquMQB_004

Target data container :
-----------

Version of the target data container :
----

Equipment code :
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

System abbreviation :
J764
Address : 005F System name : 5F - Information electronics 1 (Standard) Log versions : UDS/ISOTP ( Ereignisse : 0 )
-Identification:

Hardware part number :
3Q0035876

Part number :
3Q0035876

Hardware version number :
H25

Software version number :
0245

Production date :
26.08.2015

Coding :
-
Index
Byte
Value (hex)
Value (bin)
1
$ 1
$ 02
00000010
2
$ 2
$ 73
01110011
3
$ 3
$ 00
00000000
4
$ 4
$ 02
00000010
5
$ 5
$ 00
00000000
6
$ 6
$ 00
00000000
7
$ 7
$ 00
00000000
8
$ 8
$ 00
00000000
9
$ 9
$ 51
01010001
10
$ A
$ 22
00100010
11
$ B
$ 00
00000000
12
$ C
$ 02
00000010
13
$ D
$ 00
00000000
14
$ E
$ 18
00011000
15
$ F
$ 08
00001000
16
$ 10
$ 00
00000000
17
$ 11
$ 1F
00011111
18
$ 12
$ 02
00000010
19
$ 13
$ 07
00000111
20
$ 14
$ F4
11110100
21
$ 15
$ 01
00000001
22
$ 16
$ 20
00100000
23
$ 17
$ 01
00000001
24
$ 18
$ 05
00000101
25
$ 19
$ C6
11000110

Ability to flash :
Unknown

System name :
MU-S-NS-US

ASAM base version :
BV_InforContrUnit1UDS

ASAM 2D/ODX data set :
EV_MUStd4CTSAT

ASAM 2D/ODX data set version :
001022

ASAM/ODX control module version being used :
EV_MUStd4CTSAT_001

Target data container :
V03935223SB

Version of the target data container :
0001

Equipment code :
FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF

System abbreviation :
J794
Additional system tests with DTC memory entries
-
System test no. : 2
Address : 0001 System name : 01 - Engine electronics 1.8–2.0 FSI EU2/EU6 Log versions : UDS/ISOTP ( Ereignisse : 0 )
-Identification:

Hardware part number :
06K907425E

Part number :
8V0906259H

Hardware version number :
H13

Software version number :
UM3S

Production date :
18.09.2015

Coding :
-
Index
Byte
Value (hex)
Value (bin)
1
$ 1
$ 09
00001001
2
$ 2
$ 19
00011001
3
$ 3
$ 00
00000000
4
$ 4
$ 12
00010010
5
$ 5
$ 24
00100100
6
$ 6
$ 26
00100110
7
$ 7
$ 00
00000000
8
$ 8
$ 0E
00001110
9
$ 9
$ 30
00110000
10
$ A
$ 04
00000100

Ability to flash :
Unknown

System name :
2.0l R4 TFSI

ASAM base version :
BV_EnginContrModul1UDS

ASAM 2D/ODX data set :
EV_ECM20TFS0208V0906259H

ASAM 2D/ODX data set version :
001003

ASAM/ODX control module version being used :
EV_ECM20TFS0208V0906259H_001

Equipment code :
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

System abbreviation :
J623
-Steps performed
No. Form Result
1
Diagnosis is being prepared
OK
2
Check radio connection
OK
3
Create results log
OK
4
Detecting VIN
OK
5
Analyzing VIN
OK
6
Check vehicle identification
OK
7
Checking for DoIP vehicle project
OK
8
Establishing vehicle
OK
9
Use K line adapter
OK
10
Log on for group system access
OK
11
Set brand design
OK
12
Check contract status
OK
13
Detect vehicle data
OK
14
Identify and select order data
OK
15
Check vehicle project
OK
16
Control module communication configuration
OK
17
Detect control module list
OK
18
Check for quick entrance
OK
19
Check for availability of LT3 vehicle
OK
20
Check for CAN diagnosis
OK
21
Evaluate Gateway components list
OK
22
Control module communication configuration
OK
23
Read control modules
OK
24
Control module communication configuration
OK
25
Check the Gateway communication.
OK
26
Pause quick entrance
OK
27
Perform traversal test
OK
28
Identify control modules again
OK
29
Check for fixed installation control modules
OK
30
Check control module versions
OK
31
Create knowledge base
OK
32
Index documents
OK
33
Perform start module
OK
34
Test plan is being calculated
OK
35
Determine special functions
OK
36
Set diagnostic log type
OK
37
Reset user setting Avoid DoIP communication.
OK
38
Check for vehicle change
OK
39
Test version J623_X_1_0313_11_X_X_MSG_Nockensteller_00011
OK

Origin: System plan

40
Evaluate suspicions
OK
41
Check vehicle and ignition status
OK
42
Check for vehicle change
OK
43
Check DTC memory
OK
44
Update test plan
OK
45
Prepare secondary session
OK
46
Detect control module list
OK
47
Open components list
OK
48
Enter secondary session
OK
49
Synchronize control module lists
OK
50
Control module OBD: DTC memory 0075 - Telematics Communication Unit
OK

 

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Offboard Diagnostic Information System
Diagnostic Log(Short)
23.12.2015 19:56
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See your UM dealer and flash to the latest version to resolve this issue. The Cam code is nothing to worry about in this case.

 

ECU version and update

Do you know which ECU version you have currently? Did you upgrade it to a new version?

Also did you try to upgrade the APR tune to a different new version?

Seems like stage 2 helps. I think it's a stock downpipe issue in the end


Thank you

 

Guess this is a pretty common thing among the tuners. Im waiting to hear back from Eurodyne on it and hopefully get them to address it on their stage 2 map.

 

haven't had issues yet, I'm stage 2 catless and I'm curious what you guys are seeing for boost on stage 2?

I'm seeing 28lbs - 30lbs (a few times) on APR Stage 2 Medium Output 91 Octane. Anyone else?

 

EPC FaultS 2016 Golf-R Mark 7: APR Stage 1

EPC Fault: (Limp mode = loss of power)

10/24/2016 between 4:30 & 5:15pm

Traveling about 96 mph - location 33 miles out of Melbourne on I95:

• Traveling at ~80mph when Accelerator died . I think there was some vibration….
• Power steering ok
• AC OK
• EPC error on console. Light on solid
• Water temp at 200F. No oil temp warning light or else.
• Cruised to stop off shoulder in grass
• Smelled something burning/burnt but could have been the grass

• ~20 minutes later engine started on first attempt. Made calls for towing but cancelled when car started.
• No EPC light
• Drove remaining 33 miles tentatively while eventually up to 65 mph without any issues
• Visual Inspection looks fine.
• Car appears to be normal now

VW Dealer - Can't reproduce problem. Pertinent codes are P11A600 (Cam Shift Actuator Cyl# 2) and P060C00 (Internal Control Module Main Processor)

APR Support - Please have your ECU updated to the newer v2.3 Stage 1 file. This will prevent that error from occurring again